Oh god …well imo i know where this thread heads fast ,eventually some folks going ” Russkies is stupid man ,they cant do anything man , they copy everything from us man , America f** yeah man !” and so forth…:(
Anyway in my very un-educated opinion ( compared to other folks here who are actually involved in the aviation field), i too fail to see how the F-35 LO shaping is better than T-50’s, i meen look how many bumps the F-35 has on it , bumps in the intake , bumps for cannon and heat exchanger , bumps under the fuselge and wing roots , bumps for the tail-hook( on F-35A/B i’m not talking about C!), the shape of the fins , the amount of angle alignment on the front part …they apply REDUCTION measures for these bumps , they use serrated panels on the airframe& engine petals and so forth…and they use that “magical” composite skin impregnated RAM…but will this be enough?
The T-50 now …isnt it a much cleaner airframe ( except off-course the two bumps under the wings, but they have RCS reduction features aswell ) , more care to the forward part LO shaping compared to F-35( very much a la F-22 in term of preponderence) , the shape of the wings ( see the wingtips …they made them a la F-22 because there is no other way to shape them in order to reduce a bit of RCS!)?
The rear of the too aircraft is roughly the same in terms of RCS reduction , but imo i see a slight advantage for T-50 there too ( very small angled fins and stabilators).
On another note tho, F-35 is a bit smaller than T-50 , and that inherently gives it a slightly lower RCS , which also meens the T-50 needs more LO features to equal or best …but in the front aspect , if the F-22 is better than F-35 , so will T-50…
In the realm of speculation , well we know T-50 has a largely composite skin , so how do we know it doesnt have the same “magical” impregnated RAM too? ( at least the production version)
How do we know T-50 wont get a DIRCM aswell? and when is this device planned for F-35 , Block 5 right ? 2020-ish ? How about the T-50 missiles, no not the RVV-SD and MD, but the likes of 9M100 and others, Mraams and Lraams which it seems are planned for the production aircraft ?
In term of electronics , i think peeps are too quick to dismiss what the russians can do …you know , i have never seen so far anything sort -off “official” about the performance of various late generation american radars ( for instance) you only hear things like “outstanding” “unbeatable”, “10 times better” and so on , and what some folks CLAIM because they heard somehwere…AFAIK when i’m gonna see some Westinghouse or NG leaflets with even the most basic performance data for what their radars ( and other systems) can do , like the russians do regularely for the last what , 20 years, i’ll take whatever the yanks claim about their alleged superiority with a grain of salt …maby the russian way of design of thinking might be different , but they just go on a different road to the same place…
Speaking of radars ,for instance look at the Irbis …350-400km detection range for a 3 sqm target ,which is insane, i meen can you even go further than that? ( except off-course ,towads improving the low RCS targets detection&tracking range). Can anyone claim that the T-50 radar wont be at least as good , or even better ? How about the cheeck arrays , i’m thinking why cant the T-50 launch a Doppler-notch attack on the F-35 , is AESA somehow immune to the D-notch?
Anyway, most of this is just ( my) speculation, and imo i hope these two jets will never actually meet in combat ( tho who knows who the yanks are gonna bomb next ? :D), but again ,hypotethically, in my very un-educated opinion , T-50 vs F-35 ,one on one, in the ring , the F-35 is toast…:)( yes , yes i know , numbers , suport assets, informational superiority, training etc etc…but thats another story)
The only aircraft that can go with the T-50 in the ring in the 2020 timeframe is F-22…and the other way around aswell… 😉 ( oh and probably J-XX with either , too!)
OK enough for tonite , thanks!
Sign In
