It’s a copy because many many features of the plane are similar to that of the F-35. Not all the details are right, but the overall aerodynamic structure is similar, and we know the Chinese have broken into Lockheed and pilfered their design data.
This is not to say the Chinese didn’t do their own work on the aircraft, used their own supercomputers to run simulations, and made their own design decisions, but in large part this is an F-35 with twin engines, a larger wing, and better project management (although that’s not saying much).
Well, with all due respect you’re contradicting yourself within your two phrases. A copy is pretty much something that is identical with an a original right ? Well , you might say K-13 is a copy of AIM-9B , or Tu-4 is a copy of B-29, and perhaps J-11 or J-16 may or may not be a copy of Su-27/30 ( depending if there was a proper deal/licence agreement or not), but to say J-31 is a copy of F-35 and/or 22 because it has “many similar features” that’s way far fetched.
It may have similar features to either and have a similar configuration, and surely the chinese engineers studied the american fighters long and hard but it is NOT a copy. If it was something that would have been hard to recognize next to an F-22 or 35 then THAT can be called a copy. But J-31 is not a copy, sorry.
The much awaited SAC J-16 (allegedly). Roughly similar to Su-30MKK but with chinese engines and avionics. Thanks to j-10@SDF 🙂
Oh no, landing gear bays lack zig-zags!
No, look closely, the front one definitely have zigzags , bays have them too, and the main landing gear doors aswell, it may look like they don’t because of the complex shape, imo.:)
Not sure if these are enhacements of known pictures or they are actually newly released, but here are few details of the bird. Thanks to A.man at SDF.
Now way this is PS or anything like that now. Let’s hope we’re gonna see the full shot (of the pic you posted) soon Deino.
However they do it, but they DO it. Hats off for that. They HAVE to do it, considering the threats around them ( read, US).
Realistically , it won’t be before late in this decade when they will be able to deploy the J-20 and perhaps the J-31*. IMO, J-31 will be a quantum leap compared to any other older similar class aircraft in PLAAF** service. The older heavy interceptors can be replaced by J-20 , while the bulk of the other medium fighters and attackers can be wonderfully replaced by J-31.
IMO, a very potent line up in the early twenties would be J-20 spearheading J-11Bs, J-31 spearheading J10A/B, while perhaps the rumoured JH-7B will spearhead the J-16 and Su-30s still in service. (no JH-7, Q-5 , or older Su-27 types in this line-up)
The ultimate look in the late twenties early thirties would be of course just J-20, J-31, JH-7B ( all incrementally improved, with perhaps residual numbers of J-10B, J-16, J-11B about to be replaced, all upgraded) plus other assets, maybe UCAVs , perhaps new strategic assets, while at that time the new 6th gen chinese fighter or fighters will be about to enter testing. They could technologically equal (at least) the americans by then and coupled with advanced SAM and early warning defense they could be certain of air dominance over China.
*still maintaining a 0.5% skepticism just in case.
** i did not touched the navy air subject so far , need to read more on the subject.:p
Thanks SGW06.:)
It’s been posted before (perhaps a week or two) the images of J-21/31 came out yesterday.
What i find really interesting is that no other Stealth fighter either planned or in testing (AMCA, KFX, this japanese “ATF-X”, J-20, SAC AMF, T-50 , F-35) uses flat nozzles. Must be something unacceptably bad about them (weight , loss of thrust , TVC limitations , added cost and complexity etc.)
Is this how the Mitsubishi full scale 5th gen will look like? 🙂
http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/hyouka/seisaku/results/24/jizen/sankou/14.pdf
http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/hyouka/seisaku/results/24/jizen/sankou/16.pdf
http://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/hyouka/seisaku/results/24/jizen/sankou/15.pdf
Put it this way: this thing is to the F-22/35 what for instance F-15 is to the MiG-25 🙂
Since the need was aparently for low RCS , in how many way can you allign the tails and wings and stabilators and in how many ways you can chine the nose? And in how many way you can zigzag the radome or the panels on the aircraft?
While there are close similarities and i’m sure the chinese engineers studied very thoroughly the F-22/35 and others, it is NOT identical to them.
Seems J-21/F-60 has F-22 features in a F-35 size airframe or less, but with two engines.
Like i was saying few moths back , i believe if the SAC and China play their cards right , they can have the sale of the century for this bird. Not only they can sell a very advanced defense tool to non-aligned countries at a very affordable price for it’s capabilities, but they can also penetrate markets where they couldn’t before. (ME , Europe, Latin America etc.)
From the PLAAF thread:
Originally Posted by SGW06
The fighter doesnt has side weapon bay, and it is powered by WS-13 at the moment, and in the future the 9500-kgf power WS-XX.However, neither WS-13 nor the future WS-XX has a low by-pass ratio, therefore, the fighter’s supercruise performance will be limited, if has any at all.
As for the gap between the engines and the main airframe, well thats because they have just installed the engines at the time when the picture was taken, there should be an engine nozzle covering there to cover the gap, like these installed on any other fighters.
Just like the fairing for RD-33 on JF-17, right ?
How many missiles can it hold in the bay, 4 PL-10-class i suspect?
The “bump” under the fuselage , that is indeed only the bay doors being half open , the undersurface being smooth when they are closed, right?
Would that be the SAC factory airfield where the pics were taken?
Is september still planned as the first flight date of this bird?
Finally any other details about it?
Thank you.:)
The fighter doesnt has side weapon bay, and it is powered by WS-13 at the moment, and in the future the 9500-kgf power WS-XX.
However, neither WS-13 nor the future WS-XX has a low by-pass ratio, therefore, the fighter’s supercruise performance will be limited, if has any at all.
As for the gap between the engines and the main airframe, well thats because they have just installed the engines at the time when the picture was taken, there should be an engine nozzle covering there to cover the gap, like these installed on any other fighters.
Just like the fairing for RD-33 on JF-17, right ?
How many missiles can it hold in the bay, 4 PL-10-class i suspect?
The “bump” under the fuselage , that is indeed only the bay doors being half open , the undersurface being smooth when they are closed, right?
Would that be the SAC factory airfield where the pics were taken?
Is september still planned as the first flight date of this bird?
Finally any other details about it?
Thank you.:)
MiG-29K flying from Vikramaditya 🙂 (found on paralay, courtesy Djoker)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKm1OEcncek&feature=player_embedded
Why don’t you discuss whatever is that you discuss here about the bloody F-15 and F-16 and whatever in another topic ? This is the NEWS topic, remember??!
Su-35S weapon testing (presumably by/with RuAF pilots, as i’m sure there were some news few months back about the first live AAM missile shots- or am i mixing things here) in Akhtyubinsk starts:
http://foto.rg.ru/photos/20805519/index.html
( courtesy Seaman@paralay)