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  • in reply to: INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) #2063616
    Lava
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    Severodvinsk I odnt doubt but I was taken back by the site I always thought site to be very accurate !!!! 😮

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) #2063632
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    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) #2063636
    Lava
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    Hmmm … duped by Title :p

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) #2063644
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    An Old Gorshy Picture http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/fleet/russian/surface/gorshkov-carrier-cruiser-1143-01.jpg

    in reply to: STOVL Aircrafts #2617731
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    Plz can anybody confirm???????????

    Tu-124 VSTOL version…???
    http://www.internetelite.ru/cosmopark/ty124_1.gif
    http://www.internetelite.ru/cosmopark/tu-124.html

    The successful experience of Tu-104 airliner eploitation made it available to think about creation of short range jet liner. The work on the draft of new plane began in 1958 under leadership of S.M. Yeger, D.M. Markov, L.L. Kerber, K.V. Minker, B.M. Kondorsky, I.B. Babin. The dimensions of the plane were to be 1/4 less that Tu-104 while twise reduced mass. Reduction of dimesions permitted to use Solovjov D-20P turbojet engine. The deceision of Ministry counsil No786-378 about creaation of new plane was issued july 18 1958. Tu-124 appeared to be the first during the work on which the scale strength calculations method by A.M. Cheremukhin were applied. This reduced the development time significantly. The trial planes were built in Moscow. The production was organized in Charkov. The first plane was completed in 1960. Factory trials began march 24 1960, and march 29 the plane performed it’s first flight. The plane was used up to 70th begining when it was replaced by Tu-134. There were manufactured 110 civil liners and 55 planes for air force.
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    Versions:
    Tu-124- serial variant with 44 seats
    Tu-124- project for 48 or 52 seats
    Tu-124- for 60 seats
    Tu-124V- serial variant for 56 seats
    Tu-124B- version with D-20P-125 engines
    Tu-124K- saloon version
    Tu-124TS
    Tu-124SPS
    Tu-124- VSTOL version
    Tu-124Sh-1
    Tu-124Sh-2
    Tu-127- military transport

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    Su-15 VSTOL in flight !!!???????? 😮
    http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Aerospace/Sukhoi
    http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Aerospace/Sukhoi/Aero60G3.jpg

    in reply to: Indian Ocean Tidal Wave #2617735
    Lava
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    Yep this is what I was trying to say previously..!

    in reply to: STOVL Aircrafts #2617788
    Lava
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    Here’s a new concept worth watching…
    http://www.najaco.com/aviation/notes/2002/february2002.htm
    http://www.najaco.com/aviation/notes/2002/february2002_files/image001.jpg

    If it flies, VTOL Humming will carry 20 to 50 people – Craig Barnett – One of the more intriguing vendors at the National Business Aviation Association’s convention was a one- year-old company called AeroCopter Inc. The firm has plans for bringing to market a new VTOL aircraft called the Humming. The concept calls for a passenger compartment that will house 20 to 50 passengers. What’s truly interesting is the Humming’s lack of wings or conventional rotor system. The aircraft is surrounded by a circular jet-powered rotor system that’s contained within two rings. The inner ring, which is attached to the fuselage, is stationary. The outer ring, to which the jet engines are attached, rotates. Between the two rings are a number of aerofoil structures that rotate with the outer ring to provide the aircraft’s lift and thrust. With the rotor system parallel to the longitudinal axis of the fuselage, and the jet engines rotating the aerofoil structures, the aircraft can take off and land vertically, and it can hover as well. Two fans at the back of the fuselage provide directional stability. The aircraft transitions to horizontal flight by rotating the plane of the rotor so that it ends up perpendicular to the longitudinal axis of the fuselage — thus the rotor’s lift vector becomes the thrust vector during flight. The aircraft gains speed during the rotor transition, so that by the time the rotor is fully rotated to forward flight, lift is provided by the fuselage shape. AeroCopter officials claim that once it’s operational, the Humming will have a maximum cruise speed of around 400 mph and a range of 1,400 miles. But will it fly? The company is in the final stages of engineering a proof-of-concept model it hopes to test fly this year. The aircraft, of course, faces significant technological and engineering hurdles. Small jet engines will be mounted on the outer ring. George Syrovy, AeroCopter’s founder and vice president of engineering, said those engines would be subjected to 70-G forces. Syrovy expressed enthusiasm when GAN asked if perhaps the lateral force on the jet engines might be excessive, and perhaps the engines could be housed within the aerofoil structures, with diverters to direct the thrust so that centrifugal forces would be longitudinal rather than lateral on the engine bearings. So, like every new concept, design issues must be addressed on the long, hard road to commercial application. Still, this idea should be an interesting one to watch over the next few years.

    in reply to: STOVL Aircrafts #2617801
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    I must say aerospacetech one thing to u that is…., WOW 😮http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/images/icons/icon14.gif. Some Really good information! 🙂 Thanks a lot.

    in reply to: STOVL Aircrafts #2618427
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    Flanker_Man Thanks for nice info and for the confirmation!

    But u see its not mine or dan’s fault that we took it to be a pure erkanoplane cause from several sites I googled for this plane I found only one site hinting that it was intended to be VTOL initially. 99% of those sites mentioned it as Ekranoplane 😮

    does anybody know of more built/unbuilt VTOL projects from Russia which I couldnt!?

    in reply to: Boilers for INS Gorshkov #2063831
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    Jonsey
    I have already made that request to mods !
    Thank You

    in reply to: Boilers for INS Gorshkov #2063844
    Lava
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    Ahhh sigh! PAF_F*** wont improve!!

    in reply to: Boilers for INS Gorshkov #2063845
    Lava
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    I give a Pakistani source and you give an Indian source…….no changer there then. Pakistan denies it and you claim it, again, no changer there.

    According

    We are drifting off the subject here……

    You still have not answered my questions about Agostas and P-3Cs being on a PN “Wishlist”! Thought you may go silent on that one……

    Continue live on dream world that it was in a GREAT PAKISTANI EXPERIMENT that GHazi was lost:D I gave u the oficial source now u back off:D

    Paf boy do u know how to read or not… where did I mention ur augustas or p3c in wishlist 😀 All I mentioned was that wishlist (Ps: I was refering containing 70 F-16’s …lol ,AMRAAMS, J-10 and what not :D)
    Your intention was to drift off subject post ur crap … if u have something to discuss on Gorshy post or just move on!

    in reply to: Boilers for INS Gorshkov #2063846
    Lava
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    reality

    “In the 1971 war the submarine PNS/M Ghazi met an accident while on a mine laying mission in the approaches to the Indian port of Vishakapatnum (Bay of Bengal) and sank about 0010. “

    http://www.pakdef.info/pakmilitary/navy/index.html

    as I said, even IN dont claim the Ghazi and are man enough to admit this.
    Actual Indian and Pakistani sailors know what went on, not armchair strategists like us….

    I suggest you know get back to talking of the Gorshkov, dont want to be accused of diverting the subject! 😀

    our P-3Cs and Agostas are on a wishlist? 😀

    You need to take a trip out to the Arabian Sea and check out whats going on

    Pakdef.info …..wow what a source:D

    I dont know in which dream world do u live!?

    Hostilities broke out between India and Pakistan on 03 Dec 71. The twilight hours of 03 December turned out to be the dawning a new era for the Indian Navy. On the very night that hostilities commenced, with Pakistan bombing several air fields (03 Dec 1971), IN Ships Rajput and Akshay were leaving Vishakapatnam harbour when they obtained a sonar contact. They fired several depth charges, and proceeded on their mission when there was no further evidence of a submarine’s presence. Thereafter a loud explosion was heard rattling windows panes off the Vishakapatnam beach. The Pakistani submarine Ghazi (a Tench class submarine obtained from the USA in 1964) had come to grief.

    http://indiannavy.nic.in/1971.htm
    😀
    More from Indian Navy…. grow up boy:D

    I sent for Lt Cdr Inder Singh, the Commanding Officer of the RAJPUT for detailed briefing; as soon as she completed fuelling she must leave harbour. I had already ordered all navigational aids to be switched off, so greatest care in navigation was necessary. Once clear of the harbour, he must assume that an enemy submarine was in the vicinity. If our deception plan had worked, the enemy would be prowling about looking for VIKRANT. Before clearing the outer harbour, he could drop a few charges at random.

    “The RAJPUT sailed before midnight of 3/4 December and, on clearing harbour, proceeded along the narrow channel. Having got clear, the Commanding Officer saw what he thought was a severe disturbance in the water, about half a mile ahead. He rightly assumed that this might be a submarine diving. He closed the spot at speed and dropped at the position two charges. It has been subsequently established that the position where the charges were dropped was so close to the position of the wreck of the GHAZI that some damage to the latter is a very high probability. The RAJPUT, on completion of her mission, proceeded on her course in order to carry out her main mission. A little later, a very loud explosion was heard by the Coast Battery who reported the same to the Maritime Operations Room. The time of this explosion was 0015 hours. The clock recovered from the GHAZI showed that it had stopped functioning at the same time. Several thousand people waiting to hear the Prime Minister’s broadcast to the nation also heard the explosion and many came out thinking that it was an earthquake.

    “As per our arrangement with them, some fishermen reported oil patches and some flotsam. The Command Diving Team were rushed to the spot and commenced detailed investigations. The divers established that there was a definite submerged object some distance out seawards, at a depth of 150 feet of water and that it was a probable submarine. Even though there were a number of floating objects picked up, there was nothing to indicate the identity of the submarine. Everything had American markings. I told the Chief of the Naval Staff that personally I was convinced that we had bagged the GHAZI. He wanted “ocular proof” that it was the GHAZI, before authorizing the announcement. This was easier said than done. Diving operations were extremely difficult and highly hazardous as the sea was very choppy and the divers were operating some 150 feet below. The boat I had was not a suitable one to conduct such operations. By Sunday 5 December we were able to establish from the silhouette and other characteristics that the submarine was in fact the GHAZI. But there was no means of ingress into the submarine as all entry hatches from the conning tower aft were tightly screwed down from the inside.

    http://www.indiannavy.nic.in/Tr2Trmph/chapters/9_naval_ops_enc.htm

    in reply to: Boilers for INS Gorshkov #2063864
    Lava
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    Ha ha, even the IN themselves dont claim Ghazi which suffered an explosion after laying mines during the war, please dont claim kills that were not yours, its disrespectful for both the IN and the PN

    No one doubts the professionalism on the IN, but lets not pretend the PN are the walk over you make them out to be

    … or Rather the Ghazi crew decided to just let it sink coz they just wanted to see how deep it can go :rolleyes: Nice Dream ! You cannot just live in reality. Cant You!?

    Any no doubts Pak Navy is modernising itself so is IN now dont post that wisshlist crap of urs here too!!:p

    in reply to: Boilers for INS Gorshkov #2063869
    Lava
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    The crew of the INS Kukri would disagree with you on the latter count……..

    😀
    http://orbat.com/site/cimh/navy/navy_1971_kills.html
    PN Ghazi,
    PNS Khaibar.
    PNS Shahjahan

    ….etc etc..

    Now PN sure does agree don’t they!?

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