Hi Jagan…been meaning to contact you again! The pics are available to you if you want them for your website.
Thanks for pointing us to the underwater ejection story …I hadn’t noticed it.
I don’t think I could ever have been a Naval flyer, such a dangerous existance.
DT
A84-232:
“We never used Gannets”

One from HMAS Melbourne…but no idea what the seats were like!
(reminder to myself-I must feed you Oz Canberra freaks some pics of the Butterworth Canberras-pre-war…you Aussies know which war..the one you fought with the Yanks that we stayed out of!)
David T
The Valiant was the ‘short straw’ in the V-Bomber development wasn’t it. Produced as a very basic design that could be got into manufacture quickly, Thus ensuring that we had something to mount our big A-bombs in by 1952-53.
The other two were viewed as being ‘very adventurous’ at the time and therefore ‘risky’-a big delta wing jet and a crescent wing one.
I think the Victor remains ‘ultra modern’ looking, not only because of the wing but that fantastic futuristic nose. But then I still think the Vulcan is beautiful, but I really prefer it in ‘atomic white’!
The Valiant’s that came to and fro to Woomera were still thrilling to see but had, by the early 60’s been pushed aside by the other two. Perhaps the ‘all silver’ with no markings of any sort didn’t help the ‘self esteem’ either. The white V-Bombers had a great wow factor in those years.
DT
Thanks for showing those Wyverfan. Tough times for Fleet Air Arm crews the 50′ and 60’s weren’t they, with damned high casualty rates.
My I ask you the perhaps ‘difficult question’…why ‘Wyverfan’?
It was in many ways a pig of an aircraft wasn’t it.? So much power and a landing aspect that made it pretty dangerous, certainly compared with say a SeaHawk.
Great looking plane though! Wonder how one of those would have done in ‘Reno Unlimited ‘racing!
Dave T
Hey I keep meeting such great people on this forum!!
Thankyou all for saying such really nice things about the pics.
WV-903:
I think I had better start another thread to show you the ‘Blue Steel’ Valiants..there just doesn’t seem to be any way to stop ‘thread creep’…I’m certainly very prone to it!
Dave T.
daveg4otu:
I found some superb pics of Lincolns’s taken in the 50’s on Flikr by ‘Ikinlin18’
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20762086@N05/
No aircraft in Singapore but they start with Lincolns on Gibraltar. On page two there are some pics at Changi. The shot called ‘Changi 42’ shows the ‘western dispersal’ and control tower from above and you can tell that it was once an east-west runway, as made by the Japanese. Well ‘made’ by the unfortunate British and Aussie POW’s of course. Changi was a site for the ‘big guns’ -15″ guns from a battleship that were to defend Singapore. The POWs were housed on the camp but later in the war the ‘civilian’ prisoners were moved out of Changi Gaol and the POWs moved there.
Our RAF quarter still had identifiable Japanese writing on the doors.
Here’s a report about the Constellation crash in 1954.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19540313-2
DT
Super Sioux: CKing’s father’s picture of the MEA DC4 does look remarkably like it has only the single engine on this side…a matter of camera position though I’m sure.

I brightened it a bit as I was dying to see some more detail …since I ‘knew’ that ground so well!
Two Meteors in the background. When I went there in mid 61 the Meteors were at Seletar and moved back to Changi in mid 63.
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Likewise I wanted to know which Air India Super Connie!
It’s the first L-1049G Super Constellation “Rani of Nilgiris” VT-DHL.
Surely the most superb looking of all ‘the big props airliners’!
I await more from your father with great interest.
DT
“Did those Hastings ever move”
Well interesting question as they are ‘in the background’ of all the Changi dispersal pics! But yes they did and by December 62 and all through 63 etc were pretty well ‘tasked’ with drops in Borneo.
This thread on PPRune
http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/359772-1966-cine-film-featuring-javelin-vulcan.html
later on has a YouTube video showing a Javelin flight protecting the poor old 48 Sqn Hastings when dropping up near the border as Indonesian aircraft were overflying into Borneo.
An ‘Air Exclusion Zone’ (shades of ‘The Falklands!’) was declared and the Indonesian’s kept out after that.
Later 74 sqn Lightnings were deployed at Tengah in 1964 to counter threats from the Russian aircraft that Sukarno was getting for Indonesia.
However at one time the UK Lightning pilots were having to think about the possibility of coming up against prop fighters in the form of Indonesian P-51’s! So a test was carried out to see how a Lightning performed against such a foe. I believe the outcome was that the EE Lightning would be able to ‘deal’ with the P-51 …fascinating to consider but I can’t now find out anything about it. Anybody got any info on this?
DT
Thanks for that…it’s the same. I didn’t really believe that Beaufighters were found and had decided that the pic was the Fw-190 that was well documented. Now I’ll have to ask them if they are suggesting that more has been found than the tailwheel and a few bits.
D
“French Gannet”…yes they had the same wonderful ‘aura’ that a Gannet has, with that big airframe and whistling turboprop sound!
I see they have biggish lights in both wing pods and also in the tail. Surely more than ‘navigation lights’.
The carrier INS Vikrant was ex HMS Hercules and was still ‘straight deck’ so landing was undoubtably ‘fun’ for those Indian Navy guys.
SeaHawks are so beautiful. I’d have one of those if I was 1: Rich and 2: Had got the PPL that I didn’t finish 10 years ago!
DT
What do we think these are then guys?

This is reported to be a Beaufighter and I’m fascinated to know if this much of one has been found. Very dark pics I know.
I haven’t been able to find any more evidence on-line so far.
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Yes I want to see more pics from the ‘glorious 50’s,60’s and 70’s!
CKing, Thanks for linking to the other pics on the Warbirds site.
Loved the Navy Super Connie. ‘El Paisano’ Not the WV-2 version that I’ve already posted here, but a transport version. It has been adorned with a ‘kangaroo’ I note. I’ll do a thread on ‘kiwis and kangaroos’ sometime as they were a common sight…any plane that went near Oz got one! It also has ‘flags of many nations’ on it’s front u/c doors, rather like a ‘Caravan Club’ member that.
The Beverley (with the Hastings) is also interesting…from the time when 48 Sqn had 4 Bevs before they moved to become 34 Sqn at Seletar.
The others are of a Royal Malayan Twin Pioneer and a pair of Aussie C-130’s.
Your dad will find that the scanner picks up dust etc and if he doesn’t have it I’d be pleased to clean them up with Photoshop.
As I said before, I scan at 2400dpi…might be extravagant that but I want all the detail. I even leave ‘colour neg’ set to retain the most I can, even though my pics are ‘grayscale’. I’m sure someone can tell me if I’m wasting disc space…but that’s cheap now luckily.
I have also done some experimenting with ‘hand colouring’ on a couple of black and white pics. Sounds ‘false’ I know but if I can get a bit more experienced at it I think you’ll be hard pressed to tell that pics weren’t shot in colour. You do need a colour pic to hand to match too though.
Your dad though has got proper colour slides, which will need some tweaking…slides from that time all fade but it’ll all be worth the time spent.
Pen Pusher: Any photos from Seletar hidden away?
Keep them coming, we must preserve the past!
David Taylor.
CKing….really great, I’m so pleased to see some others from that period. Your dad had a telephoto lens as well by the look of the Air India Super Connie. I have very similar shots but as I was ‘behind the wire’ at Paya Lebar the planes on the far side of the pan are rather distant.
Air India were the first to take the big jump and go from Super Connies to Boeing 707’s and their Connies stopped during the end of 1961.
The BUA Brit and the Malayan Airways Viscount are also at Paya Lebar.
I haven’t finished scanning my own Paya Lebar shots. I made regular trips there, getting off the bus on the Tampines Road and walking through a wonderful Malay ‘kampong’ to get to the airport. The frequency of flights at that time was very different to those today. There would be only a few ‘big props’ or jets in and most movements were local Dakotas or perhaps something like an Electra.
A common jet was the Convair 880M though. Qantas had the ‘short’ version of the 707.
Your father’s picture of the Trans Med DC4 is taxing out of the ‘Maintenance Flight’ area at Changi. Interesting that – visitors were always in the ‘Western Dispersal’ in my day.
Do tell me what you’re dad was doing in Singapore and how long he was there.
I posted some on another forum so I’ll put a couple of them here.

Qantas Super Connie has a smokey start.

A BUA Brit gets it’s wheels up early!
In fact I should explain that it was ‘airshow’ day at Paya Lebar and the BUA pilot must have been ‘playing to the crowd’.

General view looking from the Flying Club end. Malayan Airways had lots of Daks and there’s one of their Friendships in the maintenance hangar.
Good luck with the scanning…I can’t wait to see colour shots!
David Taylor.
Longshot:
Indonesian Albatross 301

I believe this is early December 1962 as the film also has pics of the Brit commandeered to get troops to Labuan in a hurry when the Indonesian’s attacked Brunei.
DT
Longshot-I used a wide selection of film-not initially appreciating how important it was to keep the ‘grain’ down. I certainly shouldn’t have gone near HP3 or Tri-X out there but I did shoot some on those early on! Eventually I can see that it’s pretty well FP3 or Plus-X.
Yes I have some good shots of one particular Indonesian Albatross. It arrived at the civil airport Paya Lebar when things were ‘hotting’ up over the Malaysian Federation issue. A USAF Sabreliner called in same time. They then both returned to Changi. I think some US diplomacy was going on, possibly with Malaya involved, to get the politics sorted. Sukarno wasn’t having it though and later we had USNavy photographic SkyWarriors that I do know were overflying Borneo and going on to Townsville in Australia. They were ‘playing U-2’s’ to get info on Indonesian military moves.
A lovely plane the Albatross and I’d have loved to have seen a ‘water landing’.
I don’t know that forum..is it Air Britain?
DT