I am not any more knowledgeable than you all just am aware of how …

Gentleman and any ladies
BT is the licensee of all UK telecommunications throughput (as was Ma Bell of old in the USA) albeit now monitored and managed by OFTEL.
Digital and Analogue operate differently for technical reasons all of you are probably more expert at than I am.

Mobile telecommunications works using honeycomb style transmitters/relay aerials, base stations control at various points the throughput of wireless telephony, how can base stations be managed remotely (crisis, usage management, billing statistics, security [Ha!], etc) ? Only a crackpot will manage the base station remotely using their own mobile network (also bandwidth constraints for applying security patches and software updates).
Need I say more folks.

My job for many years (21+), which cost me for my technical indispensability being unable as an only child to be at my mother’s bedside when she was dying or even get to her Anglican burial service has left me with OEM NDAs that even on the pain of death I cannot reveal. It still brings tears to my eyes when afterwards I had to individually interview the two bedside attendants (substituted by a mad relative) who fed my mum cake in her hospital bed when in reality she need resuscitation and ICU care

I fought the hackers, in many cases prevented any intrusion but it takes a very large open cheque to pay for technology and proprietary technical programmers, which some employers gladly buy in to.

What I can reveal though is a general technique we successfully used on the key ‘guardian’ servers in cluster configuration namely to have 5 x networks cards on each server. Different firewalls on each component of cluster. Heartbeat cross check, cluster fail over only when absolutely sure (milliseconds decision making though), then a technique I personally used was to let a hacker into the now safely isolated server and let him/her have a ‘field day’ of commercial authentic looking ‘garbage’ and traverse a pseudo network (harmless). Simultaneously if necessary trace routing can be used to see the hacker’s route (often well disguised by hacker though) in.
The above is when it is unplanned intrusion/hacking is taking place.

What we are discussing here though is well planned (the correct fees greasing the correct ‘filthy palms’) internally planned hacking; in fact not hacking at all simply monitoring gone corrupt.

Only one way to get to the heart of who is responsible. Staffing logs of all server management over the period long before and after the supposed hacking dates.

Examination at raw server level (at server operating system command line – not through multiple management software interfaces) technical operating system audit trails to see who went in at ‘root/super user level’ and when and for how long. Why has to be asked of each known entry login (person). What if any was installed or substituted (object files as they are called in the now proliferate ‘rubbish’ non proprietary LINUX can be created by anyone and made exactly the same size and name as a vital component in the Operating System, and substituted in a second by a corrupt employee using ‘root/super user’ access rights or using something called a SETUID).

I have spoken at length on the LINUX ‘evils’ to the highest in the business world but they listen not to a ‘brownie’ like me but to those who they choose to listen to.

Politicians shouting, making senior police officers the scapegoats isn’t what this is about it is a technical conundrum but can be solved given a little patience and diligence by harnessing some of the best proprietary UNIX brains in the world (will they bother – probably not as they are all sick of fighting a rearguard action against commercial corruption which this is as opposed to intrusive hacking which can be a technical challenge).

Here I must stop as to say anymore is to sign the firing of that silver bullet that already has my name on it. Not afraid to die but too many air shows and new aircraft I wish to see fly starting with the ‘plastic pig’.

Finally for a mere £1 buy from Amazon a book written way way back but still holds true on intrusive hacking – a man like me who remained technically true/rich, relatively poor (richer than me though) – but a real hero – ignored by every authority until he single handed uncovered the biggest intrusive hack of its time. “Cuckoos Egg by Clifford Stohl”.

In closing – what have BT got in technical excellence (ZILCH) to match the honest technical guys I know some sadly now dead when most of us gave BT two words that have as initials F.O. when they tried to recruit us.

I wish to not say any more on this thread with regards this sad sad tale which is happening in many many other cases as it sickens me to see how corrupt and sordid some technical people have become and I always ask myself WHY ? I am going to return to a aircraft ‘speak’ only on this forum – my real love along with rowing and fast cars and of course sensible attractive members of the fairer sex.

On track – I shall be at RAF Leuchars Air Show on Sep 10 as always

On track – I shall be at RAF Leuchars Air Show on Sept 10 as always – it should be good. Even with torrential rain last year to begin with it was a great day.

All is not lost for well trained Air Force personnel and if the RAF cannot retain you then look at Airlines and Boeing in Charleston. The aero space industry needs you.

We admire the service you give and sleep easy knowing you guys are around.

Needed yes but at what price to travel ?

Needed yes but at what price to travel ?
I find flying cheaper in UK as all the special offer rail tickets turn out to be myths of marketing fanatics.
Its a different story in Europe where e.g. TGV point to point is excellent

Here my sympathies are with you

I’m sorry for all the jobs lost and the benefits to the local communities with the closure of Leuchars.

However, as this is the Historic Aviation section of the Flypast Forum I’d like to ponder as to what will become of Phantom aircraft that currently reside there.

It may well spell the end for another couple of these fine aeroplanes as I can’t see anyone in MoD paying to relocate them elsewhere.

It would be especially sad as they are in such fine fettle.

Anon.

Here my sympathies are with you. Instead of battling against foregone conclusions establish plans for re-training, relocation of armed force personnel and as for the supporting community and businesses – yes it’s hard to conceive of relocation but if there is good to be gained by moving so it must. If a service provider/supplier is respected in Leuchars, then Moray will help them settle there to support the enhanced Lossi.
The next few months will see the brave from the naive go their own ways, with the former making the best of a bad situation. Airlines need pilots and trainers and a good air force pilot is gold dust. UCAVS will need pilots in safe bunkers. Mechanics will be required to service aircraft.
Study and re-train and the excellent discipline of being in the forces will make anyone leaving or shed able to cope with an otherwise undisciplined work ethic lacking lay society.
My good wishes are for the future of every one at Leuchars displaced or not displaced in the future. Thank you for being there and hope you will be part of the RAF or society where ever you move to.

No chapter and verse required – how on earth do they calc revenue owed

“The same org. licenses and control all mobile throughput and has everything to do with mobile networks”

Please be kind enough to show me chapter and verse that this statement is correct. I think you are wrong, but will be happy to accept that I am wrong once you produce the proof to support your statement.

No chapter and verse required it’s all in the interconnectivity. Mobiles do not only call mobiles on the same network but in reality they call any number local or international (landline or mobile) – how do you think most of it connects.

Second letter of English alphabet followed by 20th letter

Sorry, can you say who you are talking about? I’m struggling with all sorts from the AA to KP!

Second letter of English alphabet followed by 20th letter

The org. licenses and control all mobile throughput

The same org. licenses and control all mobile throughput and has everything to do with mobile networks – the ultra controller (in excess revenue and technical slaughter when desired) while also being in full control of all landlines.
We pay extortionate rates for mobile services unlike most of developed Europe where the handset costs are high (can be traded in or re-sold) and calls cost peanuts. This is primarily because in UK the mobile operators pay a high overhead to the same organisation just to have a license to run their own mobile network.

My question was not pointing at Murdoch and it is necessary to read the entire post

This entire story is being magnified by the fact that any don’t like Murdoch or the fact he’s a “non-national”.

Many Brits look at all rich, successful, business people with a jaundiced eye, the fact that he’s a foreigner (:eek:), only makes it worse.

My question was not pointing at Murdoch and it is necessary to read the entire post.

The primary vehicle to all this ‘hacking’ is not the Met, Murdoch or anyone so far fingered but the organisation that I have asked all of you to make an intelligent guess of.
Two letters and they hold all our communications destinies in their fickle hands and partial brains.