3 B733QCs.
2 as of tomorrow – TF-ELM returns to lesser with Electra G-LOFE operating 3rd aircrafts mailers.
Then when G-CELR is back from check, TF-ELO goes for it’s!
Nice catch, as mentioned above it’s differant to see a gravel kit on one here in the UK!
What a shame… I’m away on one of those cheapo, shorthaul flights at the time! :diablo: :dev2:
Another point which i’ve heard in conversation at work is that harsh braking to make early or first turn-offs after landing, fast taxiing and riding the brakes, followed by a short turnaround (esp with LCC’s trying to make up time on late services) would mean that brake temps wouldn’t have sufficiantly cooled for the next departure.
If this was allowed to happen I wouldn’t like to bet the performance figures would be quite so accurate in the case of a RTO.
Normally on Xmas day a full charter operation runs from most regional airports. Best bet is to find out what day of the week Xmas is this year, then see what flies on that day of the week.
Great place is DUS – shame i’m working over the weekend or may have joined you!
I spent a couple of hours in the vevening on the terrace in May, before our flight back, but then again photography isn’t my forte – seemed to be a decent variety of traffic nethertheless.
Make sure you head into town in the evening for the ale!
Eos usually appear at LGW as a STN diverted – LGW is the primary div.
Weather hasn’t been cracking around the UK for most of the week so that would seem the more likely cause!
T’was actually Doncaster the above divert, but never mind!
Regarding the ILS at LBA being CATIII, this is only at one end of the field – Rwy32. Prevailing conditions when fog occurs usually mean this approach has a tailwind componant, which is usually the jist of the problem, as there is a significant restriction on how much companant you can take. For example a 10 wind tail componant, means you have to have an extra 20knts of airspeed, meaning a higher groundspeed on touchdown. This becomes a limiting factor on any CAT of operation – each company puts it’s own limitation on it.
There are two types of CATIII landings that can achieved at LBA, CATIIIA (RVR200m, Cloudbase 100ft), and CATIIIB (Vis 75m and Cloubase -50ft). This is relative to the systems the aircraft have. I believe the Embraers, Jetstreams and Dash-8s flying into LBA are CATII only due to the lack of autothrottle for the approach, although I may be incorrect on the above.
In order to complete a CATIII approach, as mentioned earlier, you require 3 things. Airfield to be compliant (and available – sometimes the system in U/S), Aircraft to be compliant (again this can be downgraded after normal maintainance work, and required a set number of verification approaches in good weather to confirm the system is fit for service), and a crew to be compliant, which requires expensive simulator training. My previous company had CATII compliant aircraft, but the number of diverts due to weather between CATI and CATII conditions didn’t warrent the cost of training.
Rwy 14 on the otherhand is only CATI for approaches. Given this is when the fog usually occurs it is hardly an ideal situation to have. The reasons for this at the time of 32’s installation all relate to a high than normal 3.5degree glideslope on the ILS (as opposed to 3 degrees – the norm – on 32), and the approach courses path. 32 runs over the bowl of Leeds City, 14 over the hills and high terrain of Otley Chevin. Also (added later) the ILS eqpt may capable of a higher approach certification than it is allowed due to the airfield lighting, which is also required to be certified to enable the higher CAT of operation.
It’s all quite complicated and many people think it’s as simple as CATI, CATII, or CATIII airfields!
Can anyone shed any light on why in the middle of this, this managed to get in where others couldn’t?
WOW484 BRISTOL 1350 LANDED 13:57
I once visited the airport for a behind the scenes tour and we received a talk from the senior controller. Someone asked about problems with fog at LBA and we were informed that LBA has full CAT III facilities, so blind landings are possible. The decision to divert is more often down to airlines procedures, the ability of the pilot flying and the systems fitted to the aircraft. Some airlines won’t land if visibility is less than 100m, some 200m etc. Yesterday’s pilot of the above flight must have been flying within his abilities and within company procedure. Some pilots do circuits waiting for a possible break in cloud before diverting – he may have been lucky and the fog cleared enough to allow an approach.
Just about to dart out, but the above statement isn’t wholly correct – I’ll try and get around to explaining when I get back.
Looks like we picked up one inbound divert of our own this morning from Liverpool:-
FR567 PISA 0800 LANDED 08:31
What are a passenger’s rights when an airline (i.e. Eastern or bmi) instead uses a bus to get them to their destination? I’m sure most travel by air because it is so much quicker. Passengers expecting a flight with Eastern Airways this evening are going to be disappointed, knowing that not only have they paid over-the-odds for their ticket, but now they’re going by road instead, and will be arriving several hours later than they expected.
Force Majour – basically it’s out of the hands of the airlines, and it becomes their discretion as to what service they will offer. Weather Cancellations work slightly differant to re-routing a flight due to a diversion.
Fair enough mate, In contrast to Thomas Cook, Thomsonfly and the likes (the airlines who also operate TFS-NCL) the fares are alot higher.
I agree that they probably are a lot of the time when inspected. You and me would scout about for the best deals, but for joe public, the brash, bold, red advertising etc probably does the trick to put you one step ahead of your other mentioned operators.
Uni is great……when you’re on holiday and there’s not constant work/study to be done!
Funnily enough work used to be like that, with the added bonus of planes and living aborad!
Uni isn’t for everyone!
During the first half of this year, BA did lease a fourth aircraft, a B747-200 N528MC, directly from Atlas on a temporary basis (http://www.adamrowden.co.uk/image.asp?id=704), but even this caused unrest in the British cargo industry – who’s general opinion is that the BA cargo contract should be fulfilled by UK registered airlines and aircraft.
The actual problem wouldn’t just be a foreign carrier operation, it would be a non-Eu member states carrier operating this service if there was another aircraft available to do this work from an EU member state.
The object of this is to protect EU jobs, so if say CargoLux had a B744F avail for a months contract at to cost of, say £15,000 per block hour (for sake of argument), and a Russian outfit had an aircraft capable of filling the contract, but due to lease rates / crew costs / mx costs etc cost only £10,000 per block hour – who would you use?
It’s quite interesting to see this in operation and say when somebody like Emerald / Channex / BAC Express (going back a few years) wanted to lease a non-EU AN26 to cover for a bust F27/A748/ATR size aircraft, they had to ask all the other UK operators and confirm to the Dept of Transport that there was no availability before they would grant a permit.
NCL-TFS fares on their new 757 services are ridiculous!
On the other hand, flights to ORK, AMS and even KRK now seem very reasonable.
I look forward to trying the airline out next year.
Well done Jet2
Differant markets prevail here.
TFS routeas are filled with holiday makers, second home owners, expats etc who look for release dates to secure the cheapest fares. High yields from high loads – looms like they could be onto a winner if that iks the case!
AMS and ORK are as much Buisness orientated as Leisure, hence tend to fill up later as meetings are planned etc – especially during the midweek period. KRK as one of the newer markets will probably see average price increases as the winter season moves into the summer and word of mouth spreads on the local circuit.
Another way of looking at it: –
£20 e/w + Tax for a 45 min sector to AMS – or…
£100 e/w + Tax for a 4hr+ sector – which one looks better value for mopney in terms of operational costs?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6036321.stm
There’s a little bit on the BBC website above.
Atlantic crews cope with some severe weather conditions whilst operating in and out of their Vagar base, which I believe is a Cat C aerodrome to mark the extreame local charactaristics.
Unfortunatly the 3 missing pax have now being confirmed as dead, thoughts lie with all concerned.