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  • in reply to: RAF at 90 on BBC2 #1194888
    Chox
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    It was rubbish! Ninety minutes to play with and the best they could do was to labour the same old topics – two world wars and Iraq, plus a few crumbs about Grapple. Quite how that is supposed to illustrate the RAF’s ninety years is quite beyond me.

    It was also quite comical right from the start. The whole programme laboured this presupposition that the RAF comprises of fighter and bomber pilots (as if no other role or trade ever existed) and that the service is devoted to the ultimate personal goal of becoming a fighter pilot. It was vaguely amusing to hear Mr Peters waxing lyrical about this, even though he was a Bomber pilot, but to keep shoving the idea that the RAF’s pilots are heroically waiting by their aircraft to defend London was just cushion-bitingly awful.

    Far too much time was wasted on the first three decades of the RAF’s existence, as if nothing of any significance had ever happened since. It’s fine to include lots of first-hand accounts but they didn’t exactly spread their coverage very far. As ever, they fell into the same trap that publishers fall into when they tackle the RAF’s history. They obsessed over WWII and largely ignored everything else. Quite hilarious that they could ramble endlessly about Cody, Blackpool, Zeppelins and the like, but could barely manage to mention anything that happened post-1945, save for a slightliy confusing visit to Basra, where we were merely told that some RAF guys are defending an airfield while the locals want us to leave. How bizarre (and pointless) was that? No mention as to why we were there or what we were doing… but then that would have required some effort on the part of the production team.

    It was poorly prepared, poorly written and very disappointing. Cheap television written by idiots for idiots. I think the clue to the programme’s inferiority came in the closing credits – BBC Wales. I assume it was the same bunch that made the tedious documentaries about Valley a while back. Doubtless the production team whipped themselves into a frenzy while they were at Valley, about how they could make a new programme about the RAF’s 90th anniversary, but when they actually did the job, they didn’t have a clue what they were doing. You get the impression that the RAF’s support for the project comprised of a one-day visit to Coningsby and another one-day trip to Basra. The rest of the programme was a confusing (and cheap) mix of images drawn from all over the place, including the BBC’s Coast series, and their own documentaries about Valley, plus all the same old film clips that we’ve seen time and time again. That clip of the Spitfire scramble must be worn-out by now, isn’t it?

    As ever, a golden, ninety-minute opportunity wasted on fools who are over-financed by the licence payer.

    in reply to: Scampton #1194893
    Chox
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    Think you’ll find I already mentioned this previously. New Hawks are already on order but not nearly enough of them to properly equip the flying training system, let alone an aerobatic team. Clearly, there will be insufficient aircraft to re-equip RAFAT and even if there were, I doubt if anyone would have the appetite for arguing that brand new aircraft should be issued to an aerobatic team. Clearly, it’s not going to happen. As I’ve said before, there are people already waiting for an excuse to dispose of the team and a fleet of exhausted aircraft will be their perfect excuse to dump the Reds without being accused (in typical Daily Mail style) of killing them off.

    As has been said above, the RAFAT move to Waddington was announced ages ago. Likewise, the move was already known to some people before that, so it’s been on the cards for a long time. It’s also obvious that the MoD has wanted to get out of Scampton for a long time, so when the RAFAT do move, they will have their opportunity. I agree that although various parts of the station are protected by law, the rest isn’t, and although housing must be an option, I suspect that in reality the airfield will simply be abandoned and agriculture will develop around it. The existing domestic site has already become a rather grubby council-esque enclave and I doubt if anyone would be keen to construct a brand new development anywhere near it, and in the current climate, it’s obviously a non-starter in any case (but maybe not in the long-term future). Likewise, while there’s even a remote chance of the airfield actually being used, nobody will want to invest in new property development next to it. The land is just a little bit too far out of Lincoln to be all-that attractive, I suspect.

    It must be much more likely that, like so many other places, it will simply be abandoned. Sad, wasteful, but probably inevitable. I remember the plan from many years ago to develop the airfield as an “outpost” for the IWM – a sort of “Northern Duxford”. How wonderful that would have been – an opportunity to preserve the site, keep the historic hangars, and acres of space, plus a huge runway which could handle lots of aircraft which Duxford’s runway no longer can. But like the proposed move of XH558 to Scampton, it came to nothing. I just hope that whoever does finally purchase the land, doesn’t have quite the same appetite for digging-up concrete as the owners of the former RAF Binbrook!

    in reply to: Scampton #1195183
    Chox
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    Sorry – I thought you were referring to Scampton not Cranwell!

    in reply to: RAF at 90 on BBC2 #1195213
    Chox
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    Oh well, another load of rubbish. Ninety minutes and all they told us is that the RAF comprises of fighter and bomber pilots and that they dropped bombs in two wars, dropped a bigger bomb in the ‘fifties and then ended up back in the desert, bombing “wogs” precisely where they started ninety years before.

    What garbage. I could have written a better script on the back of a beer mat whilst having a cr*p!

    in reply to: Scampton #1195215
    Chox
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    Indeed, Cranwell is just about as historic as it gets, RAF-wise. Abandoning Cranwell would be like abandoning Sandhurst.

    David I’m not quite sure how you reach that conslusion about the airfields at Scampton and Finningley. They are of course virtually identical, having been constructed to the same standards for the same job. Same runway, same hardstandings, same taxiways, same hangars even.

    in reply to: Scampton #1195383
    Chox
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    Quite agree, it would be complete folly to keep a base open just for the sake of history. But of course it’s not simply a case of closure – it’s about shuffling assets from one base to another. I’m not necessarily suggesting it would be an obvious candidate for direct exchange but you have to marvel at how – for example – two large bases are maintained on the Moray Firth just a few miles apart. And why? Politics of course. The obsession with the “Superbase” concept has already caused more than a few cynics to coiin the phrase “RAF Lincolnshire” so it would probably make economic sense to shove even more assets into the region, rather than taking some out. But of course logic never has anything to do with MoD policies! In many respects it’s just a sad affair which was probably inevitable but it’s still a great shame, not least because there doesn’t seem to be any prospect of the airfield surviving once the RAF leaves. Given its location, Scampton must be doomed to either return to agriculture, or more housing.

    Nashio – short answer as to what the RAF will use when the Hawks run our of hours is – more Hawks! The first ones are test flying already. But there won’t be nearly enough for flying training, let alone equipping an aerobatic team. It’s just not going to happen. Once the RAFAT Hawks run out of hours, the bean-counters have their perfect excuse to dispose of the team without being seen as the proverbial “axeman” – they can simply say the aircraft are clapped-out. You can see it coming from a long way off, well, not that far actually!

    in reply to: Anglo American Lightning #1195497
    Chox
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    Cheers for that – I think I’d been given a duff website link!

    in reply to: Scampton #1195502
    Chox
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    Well the Reds are going to Waddington – that much has been officially announced now, and OC RAFAT said in private before the announcement that accommodation was being prepared at Waddington many months ago, so one can only assume that it’s going to happen, and probably by the end of next year if my informants are correct.

    I think the sad truth is that the MoD/RAF have wanted to get out of Scampton for a very long time, so it’s only ever been a question of when. Given that a great deal of the admin/domestic site is already either sold-off or abandoned, and that the RAFAT is the only obvious reason for the airfield to remain active (everything else can simply be moved elsewhere), it looks like a no-brainer and has done for years. It’s all very well the RAF claiming that the Reds will continue to use the airfield circuit for display training but once the station is sold-off, the airfield will follow, and that will be the end of it. Tragic, considering the historical importance of the base and the fact that it’s a big, well-equipped airfield, but the RAF is patently obessed with the “Superbase” mentality now, and Scampton just doesn’t fit in.

    Incidentally, there was a plan to base XH558 back at Scampton some time ago so the idea wasn’t as wild as it sounds. Shame it didn’t happen!

    … and as for the Reds “remaining” – you can be pretty sure that their time will also run out when their airframes do. There clearly isn’t anything to replace them.

    in reply to: Scampton #1195977
    Chox
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    Last time I spoke to HHA’s boss, he said there was no problem with the Buccaneer as such but it was a long term project which wouldn’t receive any urgent attention unless a contract requirement arose which required it.

    I’ve been saying since last year that HHA’s future at Scampton must be in doubt if Scampton is vacated by the RAF. One assumes that they wouldn’t be able to stay there indefinitely on their own.

    in reply to: Wanted! Lightning photos! #1196790
    Chox
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    cheers- ‘fraid I can’t access FC now they’ve moved to a new site, and I’m not joining the new one… I had more than enough of the nonsense on the old one!

    Tim

    in reply to: Wanted! Lightning photos! #1197625
    Chox
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    Would certainly be worth a look if you/she doesn’t mind! I will be including some reference to the Thunder City Lightnings in the book of course so they would doubtless be appropriate for that bit.:)

    in reply to: Wanted! Lightning photos! #1199046
    Chox
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    … would be greatly appreciated sir!

    in reply to: RAF St Mawgan – the unluckiest spotter? #1203562
    Chox
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    Page is your website down? I keep trying to have another look grrr!

    in reply to: RAF St Mawgan – the unluckiest spotter? #1206497
    Chox
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    I spent a lot of time sat outside St.Mawgan over the years from the mid-‘seventies onwards. Never did catch a Mirage IV (I had to head to Wyton to finally see one fly by) and it’s true that there was always endless banter from the locals about how one had “just missed” a Mirage or a Sea Vixen – they seemed to be infamous for turning-up when you weren’t there. The closest I got was on a cold october morning when a French 135 turned-up, but without a Mirage in tow!

    Still, can’t complain. St.Mawgan yielded more fantastic sights than any other airfield I ever frequented. The mass arrival of 19 Squadron’s Phantoms was a nice surprise one day, as was the arrival of twenty-plus Atlantics one Sunday afternoon. Then there was “Arctic Fox” (the RP-3) on detachment, French and Dutch Neptunes, and those magnificent CAF Arguses, plus 104’s, Ginas, Etendards, Crusaders, F-111’s, Vulcans, Victors, Lightnings, Jaguars, A-10’s… the list goes on and on. But despite all the exotic visitors, I’d be happy to be able to just see 7 squadron’s Canberras again, plodding around the circuit, especially the lovely grey/dayglow T19’s. I still pop over to Newark Air Museum occasionally to give the T19 a pat, and try to remember when she looked less battle-worn (and without those fictitious wingtip tanks), up in the air over Newquay.

    It’s a sad day indeed. St.Mawgan will always be a fond memory. My mom died recently and she was a great fan of the area too, and she commented that she’d love to have her ashes spread at St.Eval Church, up amongst the Shackleton dispersals. So that’s my task for my next trip down there. It’ll be doubly sad to see poor old St.Mawgan masquerading as a lowly airport – if the Council ever manages to get it running of course.

    in reply to: Alan Hall – RIP #1230275
    Chox
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    Very sad news indeed. Uncle Alan was a temperamental old sod but he was great company and we jobbing writers and photographers had a lot of respect for him. I had my very first article published (with his guidance) in Aviation News. He did a great deal and he’ll be missed I’m sure. RIP

    Tim

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