Wrong. It uses seeker-aided ground guidance (SAGG). TVM is a simplified version. SAGG uses more data to get a better target picture giving you more accuracy. They are very similar, which is why you often see the S-300P referred to as TVM guided.
Can you please elaborate a bit more on the difference(s) between TVM and SAGG. As you have explained above, it is still not exactly clear to my mind.
Inflatables are great for fooling EO systems that don’t have stupid high resolution, but an IR or EW sensor can still figure them out in most cases
According to the manufacturer of the inflatable, the decoy has its own heat generators that match the exact heat signature of the real thing.
There was talk of placing the 9M96 missiles into VLS cells, but I don’t know if that one got off the ground. It’s almost as if the 9M96 has been forgotten…
There is talk about a VLS system to be placed on the 2000T STEREGUSHY clas frigates ( starting from the second or third unit). It could be aversion of the 9M96 or an entirely different missile. Apparently the system is not ready yet.
So you think that the seeker can operate in the meter band?
Don’t know. Don’t think so. These kind of seekers usually have shorter wavelenghts for better resolution and accuracy. Would appreciate input from you and others.
Does it really need to have long wavelength when the distance between it and the target gets close?
If you think an active homing head is good (from your previous post), why not a track via missile?
They are, but they have huge errors in range, azimuth and elevation ranges. The solution is that they can cue second radar with higher frequency in the direction of the threat or missile with either IR or good active-radar homing head.
The S-300 system uses track via missile (with a radar seeker in the missile). It should be just as good as active radar homing.
They are different. The containers for the 5V55 and 48N6 missiles have been noted as different for a long time. The main difference is simply the number of braces running down the length of the canister. They are all the same size, the optical effect you’re noting is because the equipment housing on the S-400 TEL ahead of the missile canisters is smaller/narrower than that seen ahead of the canisters on the upper TEL. The upper TEL may be an S-300PM-1 or PM-2 TEL as well, not a PS (PMU is wrong, that’d be an export model of the PS). The reason being is that the TEL pictured has a different datalink fairing than seen on the PS TELs, and lacks either the Master or Slave component. That was tossed out when they revamped the MAZ-543 TEL for the PM variants.
As for the missiles, S-300P series systems are backwards compatible and can fire the older missiles. Also, the S-400 does use the 48N6DM, a 250km range 48N6 variant. The S-300PM uses the 48N6 series as well, just not the newest DM. So the missiles are different but do belong to the same basic family.
Thanks.
I can’t see a reason why the S-300 system would not be able to use the longer range (Dalnaya) 48N6DM.
Should we expect to see the S-300 batteries being eventually equipped with the DM missiles of the S-400?
Should we also expect to see the even longer range (400 km) 40N6 being used with the S-300?
Confirmed by Georgian authorities and/or by photographs, the Georgian losses are:
3 x An-2 planes destroyed at Marneuli airbase by Su-25 airstrikes.
1 x Mi-14 helicopter destroyed by Russian paratroopers at Senaki
3 x Mi-24 gunships (2 destroyed at Senaki and 1 lost in unknown circumstances).
http://sites.google.com/site/afivedaywar/Home/georgiaairlosses
The Russians never revealed publicly what Georgian aircaft they destroyed. Georgians never mentioned about Su-25 losses.
The truth is still out there…..
Tell the USA about that, when it phased out the AIM-54 and does field no more than AIM-7s and AIM-120s in BVR against all kind of arial targets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBDA_Meteor
.. is no heavy-weight either.
Is the West unable to built Russian style heavy long-range AAMs or is there no practical need for that?!
Hahaha. No need to tell them. They already know. They did not invest further into modernizing or replacing the AIM-54 Phoenix because the only USNavy aircraft (F-14) capable to carry it was going to be phased out. They prefered the more versatile and lighter AMRAAM. There are both pluses and minuses in that decision.
In RuAF and for varous reasons, they still like the long range AAM, and are still investing in such missiles (R-37 and KS-172).
There is a whole new series of Russian AAMs in development (maybe they will reveal some of them during the MAKS-2009 show this August). One of those AAMs is a long range one. Unlike the Soviets, the Russians don’t have the cash to invest into an AAM that can’t shoot down maneuvering targets.
Aircraft loose energy as they maneuver to evade a first incoming missile. The second incoming missile will be harder to evade because the fighters energy has bed in the first high-G maneuver. When the third missile arrives…good luck.
MiG-31 (R-33) or F-14 (Phoenix) can shoot down maneuvrable aircraft with their long range AAMs. Considering them to be solely designed to shoot at unmaneuvrable targets like bombers and cruise missiles is a myth.
I would guess the S-400 can use the missiles asociated with the S-300 (and vice-versa).
If so, than we should expect to see the newer missile gradually replacing the older one on the S-300s.
Third prototype Ka-52 (063) @ HeliExpoRussia’09:
You mean serialy produced.
Thanks Otaku for posting Trista and Chitrista photos next to eah other.
After having a good look, I realize that the containers for the missiles are different. Can’t comment on relative sizes, but definitly different containers, indicating (but not proving) that the missiles for the S-300 and S-400 are different beasts.
Russian production capacity saturated
Order by US$ 35.000 millon saturated the industry. So, it seems that the production capacity collapsed with the USSR. I’am confident to say that during the 80s such a quantity would had been labeled as “small”.
You do realize that this $35 billion is export orders only. Dometistic arms procurement is not part of that figure.
In addition, the title is very much over-generalized. It is hard to believe that every weapons making factory from Assault rifles to combat airplanes to warships is saturated with orders. Some factories (like the S-300/S-400 production facilities) may be running at full capacity, but I am certain the industry can churn up a few more aircraft, tanks, guns etc. if there are orders for them.
Anyways, having a overloaded order book is a nice problem to have.
There were also flights right accross Israel. Strating from a base in Egypt and ending in Syria.
There is a Russian documentary about these MiG-25 flights (with lots of good video clips). It is called “triumph of the flying foxes” (FOXBAT).
Here is the documentary from Russian TV channel 1: http://rutube.ru/tracks/1864703.html?v=f5e61fbbfec6eb22a26930ed482e6c6d
Ok so the question that begs my mind is what is this Supersonic Long Range Missile which will be arming Yasen SSGN , the first thought which comes to my mind is Brahmos , but its certainly not long leg by Russian standard which to measure would be Granit i.e atleast ~ 550 km , that range i would assume is the safe distance one needs to keep from CBG protective bubble provided the targetting information is available by other means.
Some new Supersonic Long Range missile under development ?
They can certainly arm those 885 with the 3000 mile Kh-101 but these are subsonic Land Attack cruise missile.
Ok. Pure speculation from my part:
– A longer range (500 km+ ) version of the supersonic Yakhont/Onyx/Brahmos:
Advantages : small size, large number can be carried, relatively modest development cost (basically an upgraded Brahmos/Yakhont).
Disadvantages: Nothing more than a compact GRANIT (which has been in service for a while).
– A navalized KH-101/102:
Advantages: Stealth, large numbers can be carried (relatively compact), relatively modest development cost (radar equipped variant of KH-101/102)
Disadvantages: Subsonic, relatively small warhead.
– A new heavy missile that combines speed and stealth:Something like an upsized & stealthized CLUB or a stealthized GRANIT or new gen. METEOR. Perhaps hypersonic.
Advantages: Welcome to a new era of ASMs.
Disadvantages: High development and aquisition costs.
Well, explain why the US is the most successful arms seller in the whole world then…………:rolleyes:
Actually the US is one of the most unsuccessful arms seller in the world.
Compare the amount of arms sales against the size of the economy and you will see that the USA fares poorly against other arms exporters like France, UK, Russia, Israel etc.
As for why the US does not sell as much as they should, pick the correct answer:
a- they are too expensive
b- they are not as good as many people think they are
c- they come with too many strings attached
d- all of the above
(correct answer is d-)
Oh noooooooooooooooo
Another Sealordlawrence vs Dionis face-off.