Latest news is that it was a anti-incendiary gas leak caused by software error.

6 sailors and 14 civilian technicians are the ones who perished in the tragic mishap.

Rest in peace.

36D6 search radar destroyed near Gori.

This radar is normally associated with the S-300 system. Two of these were supplied to Suckashvili by Ukraine. They were part of Georgia’s air defense network.

Agreed those larger missiles would hit hard. The problem is getting one to hit. AEGIS/SPY-1 was developed to cope with high volume fire from high alt, fast, diving missiles. You drive a missile in on the very parameters that the defending systems we’re designed to cope with and you cant be suprised if the defending systems cope with them!.

You are very optimistic.

SAM systems developed all over the world are designed to cope with the threat parameteres of attacking aircraft. Yet, they often have a hard time coping with the very parameters they were designed to cope with. Why do you think AEGIS/SPY-1 will be any different?

Have this phot of a Georgian Mi-24 destroyed on the ground. Don’t know the location.

I realize that its just an internet message board, and it is a lot of fun to research the various aspects that go into fighter/tactical performance. But aren’t a lot of the arguments being made kind of ridiculous? Some of the claims in recent threads have strained credulity.

To my mind the key factors affecting the true performance in a war not just technical capability of the airplane, but also:
–Pilot training
–Maintenance/reliability of planes and missiles
-Adequate support/technicians/fuel/parts/basing
-AWACS/satellite/sensor support
-Sufficient numbers of aircraft/force concentration
-Aerial refueling, and all that support that IT requires

For example, by many measures the Super Hornet can be bested by other extant fighters. But when considered in terms consonant with the six items listed above, I believe it is safe to say that it is 1)the most capable carrier fighter in the world, and 2) sufficiently capable of putting up one hell of a fight against many land based air forces. And I’m not saying that as a SH fanboy, just trying to cite an example.

Many countries can claim a technological achievement. How many can factually claim to be able to field those technologies effectively WRT the above listed six items?

You have alreay contradicted yourself.

So, if x-istan or x-ia acquires the SH, they have the most capble carrier fighter in the world???

Completing 4 Boreis by 2015 is not optimistic, it is very realistic. A fifth is also feasible if they allocate resources and are commited to it. Remember Sevmash is building the first 3 at the same time (as well as other subs like the SAROV).

A second Severodvinsk by 2015 is very feasible. A third one by that time is a stretch, but can be done.

An eight nuclear sub by 2015 can aslo be achieved by completing either the part-assembled BELGOROD (Oscar class) or Akula claas SSN (can’t remember the name).

Which factory is going to produce these fresh Mig-29K fighters? Lukovitsy? Moscow? Sokol? I believe the Moscow factory is now closed – can anyone confirm. Thanks.