Indeed, the Flanker looks larger.
Part of is because of the tall vertical fins and landing gear. But still.
From this photo we should be able to get more accurate dimensions.

MiG-35 (or a variant of it) will be good. I am sure the Russians will make a special price for them.
Any reason they think sticking to subsonic is the best choice , considering with B-2 they achieved that two decades back
It depends on what their priorities are.
Cost is another factor.
Will the Soobrazitelny still retain the KASHTAN gun/missile defense system? Or will it be fitted with the new SAM system (Poliment or whatever it is called)?
The nozzle is a developement of LOAN. (Low Observable Asymmetric Nozzle)
“With the LOAN, stealth is achieved through a combination of technologies. These include geometrical shaping, an advanced cooling system, and special coatings on internal and external structures. Due to the effectiveness of the advanced cooling system, the life of the nozzle divergent flaps will be more than doubled, resulting in significant maintenance cost savings.”
Critics argue lots of things, whether or not they’re true is another matter. For example your assertion that the circular nozzle is definitely a no-go for LO is a good example of that. A positive assertion based on a complete lack of knowledge. Much like many of the “critics”.
And S-H-I-T stands for Stealth Harmonized Integrated Technology.
Seriously, many companies love to play with these abreviations. These things do not add credibility to their claims.
Any photos of the V. Admiral Kulakov after finishing its modernization?
Greece, Turkey and Bulgaria are members of the NATO. So nothing will be challenged by that except hostile forces outside the NATO. 😀
I did not know that NATO was eternal.
I also did not know that “once a member, always a member” applies to that organization.
To stay polite.;)
Or.. The Russians know something we dont. For example they may know/assume that a new line of airborne sensors soon will render the current stealth technology (Raptor, JSF, T-50 etc) not obsolete, but significantely less of the seemingly invincible game changer it is today.
And if both sides posess these sensors (no reason to assume the USians lag behind in the “counter stealth dpt”), agility and brute power may once again
prove to be the decisive factor when it comes to 1 vs 1 battles...
Nothing new or sensationally secret there. The Stealthiness of F-22, F-35 and PAK-FA is not going to get much better with time. In the meanwhile, modern radars will get better and better in locating and tracking stealth aircraft.
Stealth will still have value, it is in reality some form of electronic warfare. It will be at its best when used in combination with other EW systems….particularly if the opponent is not a very strong or advanced country.
From Moscow Defense Brief
http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/1-2010/item1/article1/
Russia Joins the Fifth-Gen Game
Konstantin Makienko
Russia flew a prototype of its fifth-generation fighter on January 29, 2010, in what analysts agree was a major milestone for the national aerospace industry. The Sukhoi corporation’s T-50 jet, developed under the PAK FA (Future Front Line Aircraft System) program, took off from a Komsomolsk-upon-Amur airfield for a 47-minute maiden flight. The aircraft is the first radically new Russian design that looks likely to enter commercial production since the first MiG-29 and Su-27 prototypes of the previous fourth generation took to the air back in 1977.
The maiden flight of the PAK FA has broken America’s complete monopoly on the development and production of fifth-generation fighter jets. It has also demonstrated that while not America’s equal militarily, Russia is still a solid second in terms of defense technology, outranking both Western Europe and China and punching well above its economic weight.
But while the maiden flight itself was a major coup for Russia, the success of the PAK FA program is not a foregone conclusion. Serious financial, technical and even political hurdles still remain. They have the potential to cause major delays or even stall the program completely.
– In terms of technology, the biggest worry is the remaining uncertainty over the so-called “next engine”. The existing T-50-01 prototype is equipped with deeply upgraded fourth-generation engines. And while they provide the necessary amount of thrust (even for supersonic cruising), they are not up to the fifth-generation spec in terms of the thrust-to-weight ratio and fuel economy. Many observers are skeptical about Russia’s chances of creating a proper fifth-generation engine that could compete with America’s Pratt & Whitney F119. Problems also remain with the new radar and other onboard equipment, but recent progress suggests that the risks here are moderate.
– The financial risks stem from uncertainty over Russia’s economic prospects, which are too dependent on exports of oil, gas and other natural resources. The PAK FA project could well grind to a halt if the country suffers another economic shock like the one it went through in 2009, when the economy shrank by 8 per cent and the budget deficit spiraled to 5.9 per cent.
– The political risk is that cumbersome Russian bureaucracy could well stymie Indian participation in the program. And without the Indians, mass production becomes commercially unviable because the Russian Defense Ministry’s order for the new jets will be very modest.
But although it would take at least another decade to turn PAK FA into a proper combat system, the maiden flight of the T-50 has been a major boost for the Russian aerospace industry. Its existing customers can now see a clear way forward for their national air forces, and their choice of Russia as a supplier has been vindicated. Russia can now negotiate with potential foreign customers from a much stronger position, and that includes civilian contracts as well as military. Several countries, including Libya and Vietnam, have already expressed their interest in the future Russian fifth-generation fighter.
Of course, any serious military, political or commercial dividends of the PAK FA program hinge on Russia’s ability to take it from the prototype stage to mass production. If that happens, America’s F-35 and the Russian T-50 will be the only two players on the world market for combat aircraft after 2020. The European offerings, which are all based on essentially fourth-generation technology, will be marginalized, and Europe itself will most likely be eliminated as a serious competitor. That opens up very alluring and hitherto inconceivable prospects of cooperation between the Russian aerospace industry and some European aerospace powers which still retain a large degree of sovereignty and independence from the United States.
At present, very little is known about the T-50’s onboard equipment, and even less about its future missile systems, so there is no point trying to compare the Russian and American fifth-generation fighters in terms of their combat capability. But it would not be much of a stretch to say that regardless of the T-50’s actual strengths and weaknesses, it is guaranteed to seize up to 30 per cent of the market simply by virtue of not being American. The new Russian-Indian fighter clearly has excellent prospects on the Asia-Pacific markets, especially those which Russia has already staked. What is more, when paired with the Su-35, the T-50 could be an even more enticing offering that America’s much-vaunted bestseller of the future, the F-35.
Could you pls show me a source to that statement?
First of all the NAPO are in no condition to manufact an export version Su-34 and at the same time forfilling the RuAF procurment..Second, i have never come across any reports that suggest that the Su-34 are open for export.
III.
The Su-30 will do just fine as a STRIKER for anyone out there interesting, and its considerble cheaper;)..Thanks
Check ROSOBORONOEXPORT’s catalogue of export products:
http://www.roe.ru/cataloque/airf0rces_cataloque.html
They call it Su-32 in that catalogue.
The Su-34 is available for export (decontented export version of course).
The amount of decontenting will depend on which country will be buying it.
2013, 2015, or later.
Why do some people make so much fuss about entry in service dates?
What’s the rush?
Did anyone gave a deadline to the Russians?
Is there a war coming?
Please stay serious, that pic was not send to show us the inlet-blocker to bolster the claim, that the SH is a semi-stealth design, because it does field some related features.
“The F/A-18E/F’s radar cross section was reduced greatly from some aspects, mainly the front and rear. The design of the engine inlets reduces the aircraft’s frontal radar cross section. The alignment of the leading edges of the engine inlets is designed to scatter radiation to the sides. Fixed fanlike reflecting structures in the inlet tunnel divert radar energy away from the rotating fan blades.“
Futile attempts to reduce RCS, to be polite;)
You are overclassifying the SHornet by calling it semi-stealth…Really it is a normal aircraft with some RCS reduction measures when clean configured.
In wartime, it will be loaded with ordonance and all those RCS reduction measures will come to next to squat, to be polite again:)
Have another look at the photo 😉
Super Whorenet is not both….
it just got cosmetical stealthy feature for marketing purpose….
x2
A radar from the 1960’s will be able to detect an SH loaded with weapons without too much difficulty.
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