So now your assuming that the APG-77 could not get a lock at WVR ranges thereby allowing you to take an IIR shot?

Now your taking this well into the range of “not gonna happen” 😉

So what is your take on the original question: can the ALR-94 do #1, 2, 3, 4 described above against the APG-77?

1. Yes
2. No
3. Don’t know

What’s your take?

If anything has a chance, it’s the F-22 in detecting itself.

The KC-46s are coming soon and E-2Ds are rolling off the line.

Better than whom?

Better than they had before, well sure.

Better than China? Likely

Better than Western Powers? Not a chance.

Just on the AWACS front, Russia has a few dozen A-50s. The USN alone has twice as many E-2 Hawkeyes in active air wings (not counting training wings). Now throw in the 65+ E-3 Sentrys.

Let’s look at air tankers:

Russia has 53 Ilyushin Il-78 while the USAF alone has 417 KC-135s and 59 KC-10s.

Please, it’s not even a contest.

Points to ponder:
1. What radar is going to see the tankers (as it will be the among the main targets during the “first day of war” phase)?
2. Any fighters using their radar to hunt for said tankers will be quickly visited by an F-22/35.
3. Any AWACS that goes up to support said hunt will also quickly be visited.
4. The DoD is already researching a “self defense missile”. This functionality may be combined with the Aim-9 replacement. If so, any long-range “AWACS-killer” missile can be attacked by more than jamming.
5. The longer range of the F-22/35 ensures that the tankers are farther away from the front lines.

You mean “wet” cats, right?

Originally Posted by SpudmanWP
#4 tells you where he is, what direction he is heading and at what speed.

So why do you need constant uninterrupted tracking to obtain this again?

No modern radar set uses constant beam-on-target tracking to obtain the other guy’s vector. No modern ‘RWR’ works that way either.

I did not say constant or uninterrupted. You just need a few hits to get the target’s velocity/vector.

Originally Posted by SpudmanWP
#2 tells you a direction to look.
#3 tells you exactly where the F-22 is.

Those are by and by large the same thing.

If your 50 miles away, and an F-22 can range from 0 to 50 kft, that is an azimuthal angle of less than 11 degrees.

Not even close. Think of it this way: if the F-22 is 200nm away or 20nm away makes a HUGE difference on how you will react.