I wonder how long before a Turkish S-400 finds it’s way into the US?
The FMS Sale proposal was announced for 18 Super Hornets, some A2A missiles and some support.
http://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/canada_17-49_1.pdf
$5.23 Billion = $290 mil per F-18
I thought the SH was supposed to be a cheaper alternative to the F-35. This is a LOT more than the SK deal and even more than the Japanese deal which has the increased costs of local production to consider.
WASHINGTON, Sep. 12, 2017 – The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Canada of:
ten (10) F/A-18E Super Hornet aircraft, with F414-GE-400 engines;
eight (8) F/A-18F Super Hornet aircraft, with F414-GE-400 engines;
eight (8) F414-GE-400 engine spares;
twenty (20) AN/APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radars;
twenty (20) M61A2 20MM gun systems;
twenty-eight (28) AN/ALR-67(V)3 Electronic Warfare Countermeasures Receiving Sets;
fifteen (15) AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Advanced Targeting Pods;
twenty (20) Multifunctional Information Distribution Systems–Joint Tactical Radio System (MIDS-JTRS);
thirty (30) Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS);
twenty-eight (28) AN/ALQ-214 Integrated Countermeasures Systems;
one hundred thirty (130) LAU-127E/A and or F/A Guided Missile Launchers;
twenty-two (22) AN/AYK-29 Distributed Targeting System (DTS);
twenty-two (22) AN/AYK-29 Distributed Targeting Processor (DTP);
one hundred (100) AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder Block II Tactical Missiles;
thirty (30) AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder Block II Captive Air Training Missiles (CATM);
eight (8) AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder Block II Special Air Training Missiles (NATM);
twenty (20) AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder Block II Tactical Guidance Units;
sixteen (16) AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder Block II CATM Guidance Units.Also included in this sale are AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles (NVG); AN/ALE-47 Electronic Warfare Countermeasures Systems; AN/ARC-210 Communication System; AN/APX-111 Combined Interrogator Transponder; AN/ALE-55 Towed Decoys; Joint Mission Planning System (JMPS); AN/PYQ-10C Simple Key Loader (SKL); Data Transfer Unit (DTU); Accurate Navigation (ANAV) Global Positioning System (GPS) Navigation; KIV-78 Duel Channel Encryptor, Identification Friend or Foe (IFF); CADS/PADS; Instrument Landing System (ILS); Aircraft Armament Equipment (AAE); High Speed Video Network (HSVN) Digital Video Recorder (HDVR); Launchers (LAU-115D/A, LAU-116B/A, LAU-118A); flight test services; site survey; aircraft ferry; auxiliary fuel tanks; aircraft spares; containers; storage and preservation; transportation; aircrew and maintenance training; training aids and equipment, devices and spares and repair parts; weapon system support and test equipment; technical data Engineering Change Proposals; technical publications and documentation; software; avionics software support; software development/integration; system integration and testing; U.S. Government and contractor engineering technical and logistics support; Repair of Repairable (RoR); repair and return warranties; other technical assistance and support equipment; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated total case value is $5.23 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on September 11, 2017.
I wonder how many SDB/Spear BRUs they could fit? If they could get them in at a 2×2 config that would be 16 SDB/Spear munitions!!!
always preferred Boeings X-32 to the F-35
Time to take off the Beer Glasses.. You probably liked Honey Boo Boo’s mom too :very_drunk:
Another Tailhook video
OpNAV panel https://livestream.com/wab/tailhook2017/videos/162483994
— 07:00 – Bill Swan (APW TacAir USMC) – F-35B info
— 12:30 – F_35C USN Status
—- 3 F-35Cs already loaded with Block 3F
—- Aug 2018 goal for F-35C IOC
—- Previously mentioned “fixes” to cat oscillations well received
—- OLED HMDS looks to be on track
—- Aim-9X outer wing panel fix is looking good too
—- F-35 generates nearly a terabyte of downloaded date per flight.
—- F-35C has been flying TopGun for two years.
Tailhook 2017
JPO Industry Rep [‘Brick’ Wilson] (20 minute mark) https://livestream.com/wab/tailhook2017/videos/162471073
Items of note:
— 21:50 – 6 x 2k JDAMS + (int) AMRAAMS + 9x going mach 1+
— 23:44 – some of the items changed to mitigate cat oscillation
— 25:30 – HMDS improvements to include an new “optical tracker” to get added to the inertial and magnetic trackers. A new OLED HMDS display is in the works to “eliminate” ‘green glow’.
— 30:00 – F-35Cs participating in LFE (TopGun, Northern Edge, Red Flag [“releasable” 24:1 kill ratio “We Killed Everything” @ 3i])
— 27:30 – Some kind of issue on the B/C with IFR, no details given.
There is lots of weird stuff around the Nevada range.
Area 51 aka Groom Lake

It is not like if a judgement from a “supreme court” was needed to cancel a call for proposal to rehash the RF rules (cf. KC46)
IIRC that did not go to the Supreme Court but was a GAO decision to restart the process.
Nope, and neither do I care as they are not trying to circumvent an “open” competition by doing a back-room deal like France is trying to do.
If they think it’s unfair, then they need to specify what part is unfair (it’s 247 pages).
Belgium even removed the nuclear requirement to allow for more bidders.
http://www.vandeput.fgov.be/sites/default/files/articles/Request%20for%20Government%20Proposal_0.pdf
Just saying “unfair” is meaningless.
I never said it was contractual, just that it is what Belgium had asked for.
What France clearly wanted was to NOT be part of an open and fair competition which is why I asked “What are they afraid of?”.
Spudman, Hillary Clinton publicly proposed F-35 to India just after MMRCA.
I and others opposed her doing so for the exact same reason. Btw, it was an informal offer and not a reaction to an RFI/RFP. Still not the same thing as the French did.
the exact same aproach that LM took to the Indian Navy RFI for a Naval Fighter.
Did the Indian Navy ask LM for an RFI on the F-35B/C or did LM just offer info outside of an RFI without being asked? (Source?)
It sounds like the RFI was an open invite with no list of companies listed ahead of time.
Here is the RFI (Jan 2017)
http://tenders.gov.in/viewtenddoc.asp?tid=del877328&wno=1&td=TD
4 companies responded but their names not released (May 31, 2017)
http://www.ptinews.com/news/8754463_4-nbsp-players-show-interest-to-supply-57-fighter-jets-to-Navy
Given that the names of the 4 have not (to my knowledge and 5 minutes of Google searching) been released, how can you say that LM is trying to go around the RFI process?
Also, if LM did talk outside of the RFI process it would still not be the same as what the French are trying to pull as it’s the “French Armed Forces Minister, Florence Parly” that is trying to go around Belgium’s RFP and not just Rafale. That would be like SecDef James Mattis talking on behalf of LM.
So it seems that France thinks that the Rafale can meet the spec that Belgium is looking for but does not want an “open and fair” compatition. Again, what is it afraid of?
PARIS — Belgian Defense Minister Steven Vandeput confirmed today (Sept. 8) that France did not respond to the call for tenders for the replacement of the F-16 fighters, but instead made a direct proposal to Belgium.
Speaking on Belgium’s Radio 1, Vandeput did not, however, indicate whether the French offer would be taken into account. “We must first consider the legal status of this proposal,” he said.
By the deadline Thursday night, only two candidates have formally responded: Lockheed Martin, with the F-35A Lightning II, and the Eurofighter consortium with the Typhoon.
On Thursday, just a few hours before the tender deadline, French Armed Forces Minister Florence Parly made a surprise announcement, saying that she had proposed to her Belgian counterpart “the establishment of an in-depth partnership between our two countries to meet the need” expressed by the Air Component of the Belgian Armed Forces for new fighter aircraft.
On Friday morning, Mr Vandeput said that there were indeed “two candidates engaged in the official procedure, in addition to the French proposal,” but did not say whether it would be possible to take the latter into account.
Tell me, can you still make phone calls with the tinfoil hat on?