‘Seeker’ on its own sounds better and fits in with Sentinal, Shadow, Sentry names quite well.
Anything beats ‘Rivet Joint’ though, where does that name originate?

I always thought that Air Seeker was the project name?

For Rivet Joint see following.

The “Code Names Handbook”, published by Defense Marketing Services (D.M.S.) in 1983 can be downloaded from the zip file on the designation-systems webpage. See below.

‘RIVET – A permanent first word nickname assigned to HQ USAF. The term provides for rapid response on a variety of minor aircraft modifications peculiar to the Air Forces special air mission aircraft.’

http://www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/names/r.html

http://www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/codenames.html#_FirstWords

From

http://www.designation-systems.net/

TJ

Here is another C-17 producing contrails while being intercepted by F-16s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=burkhd3d4WE

TJ

Fat Boy wrote

Their contribution in the Falklands was negative and totally useless, not to mention expensive.

I expect you are referring to the Black Buck missions? You do realise that RAF Harrier GR3s also took part in the Falklands? Some 25% of the Sea Harrier Pilots during the Falklands were RAF. The Sea Harrier pilot with the most Argentine aircraft kills was RAF.

Were the following RAF units also ‘useless’?

http://www.raf.mod.uk/falklands/rafau.html

TJ

Obligatory wrote

ps: if i wish to download all content of US Embassy gossip: where’s the link ?

http://213.251.145.96/cablegate.html

TJ

So what is it? Any pics of the replica?

Images of Harrier replica serial ZH139

http://www.myaviation.net/search/search.php?view=&regnr=ZH139

TJ

Some images of the event taken from Hermosa Beach, California. You can see from the first image the true perspective of the event on 8th November. Shot at 20mm focal length other contrails are also visible.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28003192@N04/5163222326/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28003192@N04/5162058690/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28003192@N04/5162058662/in/photostream/

TJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whd_F1r_iG4

Looks strange.

Disclaimer: don’t have an opinion on “chemtrails”. Don’t know enough to say they exist or not.

The video was a prank by a USAF KC-10 crew member and his colleagues on the Chemical Trail conspiracy people. The person named Tim posted the video on his You Tube Channel USAFFEKC10 in July 2010. The channel is now disabled although the chemtrail believers have set a channel up with this name. The chemtrail people fell for it hook line and sinker and it was reposted as evidence that USAF Pilots were spraying chemtrails.

Originally posted on the KC-10 crewman’s You Tube Channel.

“The truth is, the video is real and unedited but the title was created to poke fun at the chemtrail people. All this video shows is a couple of KC-10’s flying in formation. When I saw the contrails coming from the lead KC-10 I pulled out my video camera knowing I was going to pull this prank and the pilots played along. So there you have it. It’s just a prank on all the chemtrailers.sorry,

-Tim”

The Chemtrailers still won’t accept that it was a hoax. 🙂

http://tankerenemy.blogspot.com/search/label/USAFFEKC10

Tanker Enemy’s Channel. You really couldn’t make it up. Check out some of his aircraft videos and the comments?

http://www.youtube.com/user/tankerenemy#p/u/39/sJo6tWHt-2U

They still believe that the USAF Pilot was a Whistleblower!

http://nomorecensorship.com/chemtrailsweather-modification/chemtrail-tanker-video-from-whistleblower-pilot-at-cruising-altitude/

TJ

Mercurius,
Excellent post. I concur.

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Suflanker,

The FAA have already made their viewpoint very clear. The FAA said that they saw no unidentified targets in the area and there were no reports of unusual sightings from pilots.

What does that mean to you? To me it means that there was nothing there that shouldn’t have been there! In that region there were two likely airliner candidates.

UPS902 from analysis of the flight data is the best fit for it being over the exact same area and time of this claimed missile launch. Note that the FAA also stated that there was no unusual sighting from pilots?

In addition to the pilots there have been no sightings reported from any other source. No reports from LAX Air Traffic Controllers on visual watch from the tower, no reports from mariners and nothing from the residents of the islands such at Catalina of this claimed ballistic launch. No reports of seeing missile plumes, staging events or anything else associated with a ballistic missile launch.

Some people are increasing the pressure on CBS to come clean on the edited footage that was shown. Remember this is the same footage that Jane’s Doug Richardson saw and was asked to comment on? CBS only show the edited footage and have since remained silent. The pressure is growing for CBS to release everything that Gil Leyvas filmed on that day. Analysis has already been completed on the tape. Why didn’t they simply show all the video or make it available? Why wasn’t all the footage made available to those people that they asked for analysis and opinion?

Some people are already calling it another ‘CBS-Gate’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2630024/posts?page=1

Gil Leyvas, the news helicopter cameraman, revealed something interesting in a CBS interview. He revealed that on the 4th November (Thursday) he witnessed a similar event.

Video on the following link.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2010/11/09/exclusive-raw-video-mysterious-missile-launch-off-california-coast/

Transcription.

“It was unique, it was moving, it was growing in the sky. As I zoomed in I used a two-times extender on the lens to get a closer look, and you could tell that the object, whatever it was, was spriraling up in the sky. You could see the clouds were kind of swirling and as I zoomed in and got tighter on it, it appeared that it was spinning and going in a westerly direction.

“Well, I realized that it was something that we saw earlier from the week before — we saw something very similar the past Thursday, and immediately I realized that it was something very similar, and called on the 2-way there to our assignment desk to let them know that we were seeing it again. It’s not as dramatic as the one from yesterday — the one from yesterday was pretty spectacular. Like I said, it was growing in nature and continued to fly up into the sky, and at one point it seemed to separate. The smoke or the
plume seemed to stop and then continue further up in the sky and then finally disappear.”

What is interesting is that UPS Flight 902, a McDonnell Douglas MD-11 tri-engined airliner, was flying the exact same route on the 4th November as the 8th November. It leads me to think that possibly Gil Leyvas witnessed a persistent contrail generated by UPS902 on both the 4th and 8th November?

Details recorded have the 4th November flight arriving at Ontario (KONT) at 18:05 PST. On the 8th November UPS902 arrived at Ontario (KONT) at 18:02 PST.

UPS902 on 4th November.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS902/history/20101104/1955Z/PHNL/KONT

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS902/history/20101104/1955Z/PHNL/KONT/tracklog

UPS902 on 8th November.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS902/history/20101108/2055Z/PHNL/KONT/tracklog

It would certainly be interesting if UPS 902 on the 4th November 2010 was captured on the LAX webcam?

Gil Leyvas has provided no timeline for the similar event on the 4th, but it does raise some questions. Was this another missile event, or did he misinterpret another persistent contrail made by an MD-11 flying the same route at the same time into Ontario International, California? If would interesting if he recorded footage of this 4th November event?

TJ