Lance, you left out the bit about declaring yourself President and disbanding Parliament.:D

I assumed we’d all take that as read, Robbo. 🙂

I am not being sarcastic, but a lot of what you say, I agree with, so, not trying to be a clever s** can we please have your views, as I see you have your civvie hat on at the moment, even as a Moderator you are human and entitled to give your opinion, which on this subject I would like to hear please.

OK, you asked for it…..!

To my mind, we are faced with a situation where rights have become uncoupled from responsibilities. Our rights as individuals should go hand-in-hand with our responsibilities to our families and to the rest of society – whether we are talking about parents on housing estates taking responsibility for the behaviour of their children or about rich individuals and companies paying their fair share of tax.

It is all too easy nowadays for people to abdicate their personal responsibilities with little or no consequence for themselves as individuals. Indeed, some individuals even gain celebrity status from their fecklessness.

Some would even have us believe that there is no such thing as society, that we should all look out for ourselves and the Devil take the hindmost. So what to do about it?

There should be a basic principle running throughout the governance of this nation from the top to the bottom: actions and choices have consequences as well as benefits. Let’s look at some random but specific applications of this principle, so hopefully you’ll understand what I mean.

If a care home is found to be neglecting residents, then the management and ownership of that establishment should face criminal charges and the establishment confiscated and placed under proven responsible management – whether in the public or the private sector.

No public official (including Cabinet Ministers) should benefit from their holding office beyond their contracted salary and pension. No more “gifts”, no more “hospitality”, no more kickbacks, no more “jobs for the boys”.

Anyone who is able to do so but refuses to support themselves and their families will be made to work on essential infrastructure renewal (eg, replacing sewers) for minimum wage. By compulsion, should it prove necessary.

All child maintenance payments will be directly deducted at source from wages, salaries and benefits. 100% of these amounts (minus a minimal handling charge) will be paid directly to the parent who cares for the children.

Single parents will be expected to find work once their youngest child is in full-time education – but only once cheap and reliable childcare is made available to them.

I could go on…. but hopefully this gives you a taster of what life would be like under my benign dictatorship. 🙂

OK. It’s someone else’s turn now.

I agree with what you say, up to a point, as regards what the answer is, I take it your referring to the family/ies who have never worked, Have not the Government plans drawn up to stop them from their benefits they are claiming?.and get them back into work, but with unemployment running , the last time I looked was 2.5 mill, I doubt if even that will work. I like yourself would like to know the answer.You pay Income Tax the same as I, and millions of others, why should we subsidise their way of life.

So, once again, what do you think should be done about it?

This applies to everyone, not just Lincoln 7. Instead of having yet another moanfest about the ills of society, how about some constructive thought for a change?

There are some good minds in here. It’s a pity to see them wasted on serial Victor (and Victoria!) Meldrew impersonations.

With repect G.A. it’s NOT my problem to sort out.it’s the Governments!!your making out it’s my problem, and it’s up to me to sort out.;)

Don’t be silly.

Nobody said it was up to you to sort it all out. Why are you pretending otherwise?

You, and others, have described the problem in detail – and I think we would all agree that it IS a problem.

But what we need isn’t endless repetitive description of the problem. What we need is answers.

Can anyone actually suggest any, or are we just going to have yet another thread of endless complaining?

Nail/head inkworm.It is a well known fact there are families, mother, father, and children of working age, none of which have ever done a days work in their lives, and as long as they can get away with it, they will do.

So, what’s your answer to the problem?

You do realise there is a great deal of European product in Boeing aircraft?
There is also a good content of American and non EU product in Airbus aircraft.

Quite so.

A fact often overlooked in the A vs B fanboi fests that seem so common elsewhere. 🙂

Anyway, BA already are operating a large number of Airbus aircraft.

They are coming.

Sounds like a trailer for a science fiction “B” movie, if you ask me. :diablo: