This is just getting ridiculuous by the minute.

Side 1_LCA=MKI,Typhoon,rafale etc.:rolleyes:
Side 2:Since gripen was invited so LCA is worse than Gripen.:rolleyes:

guess what?LCA hasnt been considered for MMRCA because it hasnt even reached its IOC yet.And at this point it is worse than any aircraft in service(same can be said about your F35).But that is just a PREMATURE comparison.Let it be inducted and fully developed then we will compare definitely to others.

Not that.If the car nicobar base can handle flankers…they could deploy a MKI detachment if needed.

INS Kesari (see photos), the Navy’s latest amphibious vessel of the Shardul-class will be commissioned into service on April 5 at the IN Jetty at Naval Base, Vizag. The GRSE-built vessel is the second in the Shardul-series of landing ships.

Kesari is the Fourth LST (L) of the Indian Navy and second of the Shardul class. She is a further upgrade on the basic Magar Class (the First LST (L)) in her suite of weapons, sensors and indigenous content. The ship can carry 11 Main Battle Tanks and 500 Troops at speeds in excess of 16 Knots. Besides undertaking amphibious operations, the ship is a potent assault platform capable of operating both seaking 42C and the indigenous Dhruv helicopters. She is fitted with two indigenous WM 18A Rocket Launchers to support the amphibious operations. The threat from air is dealt with through two indigenous CRN 91 Anti Aircraft Guns mounted on stabilized optronic pedestals and shoulder launched IGLA Surface to Air Missiles. It also has ‘soft kill’ ability through Chaff Rockets, which can be used to clutter the sensory inputs of an incoming enemy aircraft or missile.

The ship is fitted with Remote Propulsion Control, Battle Damage Control System and Automated Power Management System. These are fully integrated, microprocessor based, digital control systems for providing control and for monitoring ship’s machinery and systems. The ship also has a microprocessor based anti-roll Flume Stabilisation System and Smoke Curtains to impede spreading of smoke and toxic gases in case of fire onboard. In addition, the ship can act as a Fleet tanker through stern refueling of other naval vessels and as a hospital ship. The ship is also ideally suited to undertake humanitarian assistance and disaster relief operations.

courtsey IN and Aroor.

People have already started to sweat:China Asks U.S. to Back its Control of Tibet Unrest
As I said its very difficult to disregard the “West”.

The real questions is – genocidal fantasies apart – what do you propose to do about it?

Realistically?

Before answering, please bear in mind that China currently has the largest population of any nation, the world’s largest standing armed forces and, with an estimated 2007 current account balance of +$363.3 billion (Source: CIA Factbook), one of the strongest economies on the planet.

Depends on whom are you referring to as “you”.

1.As far as the “west” is concerned I am not sure they could do much at this moment….not much because of the military aspect but more so because their economy is intertwined with the Chinese.At the moment diplomatic and symbolic protests will have to do.Gradually economic policies will have to be modified by the countries who are actually concerned about this.Militarily maybe covert assistance to keep various rebelling factions alive.In anycase 30-40 years from now china looks to be one of the countries challenging the US hegemony on an equal footing.So it is most probable that plans are already underway to prevent this.

2.As far as India is concerned(I being an Indian) I would look to vote out the wimps and install somebody who takes actions to safeguard Indian interests.Militarily actions are already being taken at this moment to thwart any Chinese military aggression in future.

3.At the personal level..I try not to buy chinese goods at all , alternatives are there Japanese ,Korean ,Indian etc..And also try to convince people in my social circle to do likewise.I am also not going to watch the olympics for the first time in many years.My car already sports this sticker at the corner of the windshield just below some other sticker;) .So does many of my friends and family’s.

Things have to start somewhere..however small.

Jail for Chinese rights activist
A prominent activist who publicised human rights abuses across China has been convicted of subversion and jailed for three-and-a-half years.

Now having my two cents worth about the original issue:

Indian has for many years, haggled over the right price for what it wants, in the end she gets the price but sadly the world has moved on and thus the price that they want to pay initially is for- what the world sees at time of purchase- old technology.

Indai has billions to spend on its military and we all are amazed at the deals she enters into, but then comes the years of haggling and this is where they loose all credibility. Everyone keeps talking about the sleeping dragon that is India, but sadly I think the dragon is just about dead! It needs a 300Khz jolt to bring it back to life and one loud message sounding right throughtout the governments- “CLEAR”!

I don’t dispise the Indians, heck many of my friends are Indian, and they too can see my points. The Government needs to set out a clear pollicy on what it wants, how it will go about buying them and look realistically on it’s prices (The Qatari Mirage deal comes clearly to mind here).All this price negotiation is harming not only their staff, but as they are now aware, their ability to defend themselves! Given the critical state of affairs in Delhi atm, a militant Pakistani with a screw driver could walk in and take over India, how then can they meet the challenges of China who is basically, ready to go?

The whole Gorshkov deal was one huge farce and the Russians are the ones laughing because they are the ones who are squeezing money out of the Indians. I would have canned the deal after the first two failures to set a price, I would not have bought the Migs (as it stands they will be the only country operating that particular model- too large a risk factor).

Instead I would have kicked the Local carrier into top gear (after all they want three of these, as it stands, with the delays, they’ll be lucky to get one), Kicked HAL in the patootie and told them to hurry up with the LCA(N) and fired my government for the imcompetant fools that they have become, that includes the top brass who kept changing their minds on what they wanted.

In India everything moves at their own pace..which is not very swift!The main problem here is bureaucracy and number two is politics.And that includes the services also.I am told we are supposed to inherit our penpushing organisational ways from the brits.Do they suffer from the same kind of red tape?Anyway!300KHz jolt…heh that was a nice one…a Pearl Harbour type perhaps?As ar as the Qatari Mirages go..they were overpriced and I think its good that we didnt go for them with the impending purchase of the mrca.As far as the local gear is considered..the IN cannot be faulted.The IAF on the other hand is clearly acts like a spoilt brat and wants to have everything that it sees on the shop window.