The MiG-29 was suppressed by Su-27 due to its original version’s stable layout. However, if you calculate wing load, T/W rate, and scrutinize the aerodynamic design for MiG-29, it more balanced than Su-27 to be you will find out.
The MiG-29 became the unstable layout now.

Eurofighter down F-22 as a fact rely on many specific condition which we would never know unless there is overview video released.
According to the video in airshow, Eurofighter is the very agile fighter flying like a leaf whose direction almost impossible to predict.
However, I have to say without TVC, the post-stall will be unable to done by either Eurofighter or Rafale or Gripen or any canards fighter even J-10 and J-20. Thus gives F-22 a probable chance to gain some advantage in close combat.
Given to the history case it is completely possible that an advanced fighter was shot by an inferior fighter, Me262 downed by P-51, Zero downed by Wildcat, F-4 phantom downed by MiG-17, F-16 downed by MiG-23, and so on for example.
Circumstances determines everything, we should remember that.

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The wingspan you put is reasonable, but you have to realize the J-20 has significantly larger L/W ratio than F-22 and PAKFA and whatever contemporary fighters.

At least be sincere. You are claiming J-20 is an interceptor. You are comparing it to J-8 then saying “good luck with the tight turns etc”. Be bold, don’t be shy. 🙂 You are saying it is too long to be an air superiotry fighter. Don’t you? Am I reading wrong???? :rolleyes:

Also, if you want you can use it as a bomber, too. That is not the point. The point is you are saying it is not designed for air superiority. Or don’t you?? 🙂

By the way, I dint ignore any of your points, I said J-20 body is longer than F-22’s, definitely not by 20% though. Exhaust to nose length for F-22 is still longer than 17m and J-20 is shorter than 20m when you exclude tails. Difference is probably around ~2.5 meters. But you have to accept that tail structure of F-22 is much more massive than that of J-20. It is completely fair to compare their absolute lengths.

I guess you have the impression of F-22 is a tiny jet 🙂 You know what, it is bigger and heavier than even F-4 😉 It’s empty weight is 19,7 tonnes! 5 tonnes more than an that of F-15E. 🙂 I will be bold have a wild guess here and tell you J-20 empty wight will be almost identical to that of F-22 🙂

I will repeat myself. By looking at dimensions it is really hard and requires some talent to say “J-20 is not designed for air-superiority.”

A good picture that shows ratios of J-20 (you can come up with your own estimates about wing span emile come on use some engineering knowledge of yours :), your welcome ):

Does it still looks like an interceptor?? All interceptors need those canards and wing span 😉

Tooo many opinion with no premise.

I still have no idea about your interval of that 14 meter for wingspan

If your eye works well please make out the photo you posted with obvious pitch angle.
Otherwise, before you come to join this forum, please fill your brain with basic knowledge of plane. Since the first plane flew into sky, none of them was measured length by exhauster.
What’s the merited length about this fighter by your personal rule?

nice, indeed!

This is the J-20 about 20.6meters long, filled fully by the missile in side weapon bay.

I am so glade to see how many people will fall into this trap, most of them will be Chinese in believe.:diablo: