This forum never lets you down 🙂
There were people here who said “if it is shorter than 22m, I will eat my shoes”. Now, it is apparent the thing is less than 21m, people start to talk about wing span/length ratio to claim J-20 cannot be an air-superiority fighter.

I’d like to see where and who told that red words you quoted, and clearly you have no idea about engineering. Don’t you remain any space between missile and bulkhead for the data kept shorter than 21meter?

J-20 creates the illusion of being “big” because of the delta wing, canards and small vertical tails. That simple really.

It is simple as your thought.

My estimate for length / span ration is around ~1.5 which gives ~14m for wing span.

We will see what if the wing span really is around 14 meters which you gave no interval deliberately or undeliberately:D

I don’t get what the length issue is all about. It does not really matter how long the plane is, the overall measures (ratio between wiongspan and length) put it purely visually more in the F-111/J-8II category than F-22.

Yes, it certainly is not matter as you said, I did not mind this plane was estimated as shorter than 20 meters with sturdy measurement, which also be presented in previous episode. However, some data, some Chinese don’t like it. Even it is an existence, most Chinese military enthusiast tends to accept or reject purposely.
They are so weak…….:diablo:

This is the J-20 about 20.6meters long, filled fully by the missile in side weapon bay.

please search previous episode of such thread.

😀 Where is the one who argued with me about the length of J-20 now

The TA-50 will or will not have a stronger airframe is the most uncertainty for assessment and certainly has less hardpoints than Tejas.
Before post please do some study.

Did any one here see Super Etendard carried CFT?

Eliminating some subjective factor will be a batter way to assess the performance of fighters. Skill, brave, or even the health status when combat happen are exogenous variable for meassuring specification