The present T-50 prototype is similar the former YF-22 in its development path or an “empty shell”.
Even the engines are not the final ones. The Russians are not eager to repeat their disaster with the first T-10s. Nothing wrong about that and still 6 years to go before the first series examples will be built.

Ok, i can understand this comment..i can understand the ‘pessimism’, but i doubt, i really doubt the T-10 was doing aerobatics, high aoa maneuvers, turning and composed maneuvers at low level after the 15-16th flight, i doubt even was ready to do this, i don’t know how, probably the pakfa’s first flight was not the first, and the ‘ugly’ things of the program were left behind already.

So i’m a bit more optimist

BTW, the yf-22 was an ’empty shell’, because it was a demonstrator, this pakfa (t-50) is a prototype, heck, there are even pictures suggesting they are testing the radar already.

Are there any examples of reasonably modern airborne fire control radars that operate primarily outside of X-band?

None…radar engineers are not Raptor’s cheerleaders…

About the foxhunter, it operates at 8-10Ghz , so is basically X band.

J-band is actually X band

Is fun, because after 20 years of the “stealth” showdown, nobody is giving a flying f*ck about it, radar designers are pretty confident.

The only system that could be operated in such way, and actually has a complete incorporation for such operation is the Elta’s radar for the Arrow, of course it does need very long range for a successful tracking since it is a ABM, not sure if this is that important, but it shows the technology is there (for the kids that love to say that L-band is not compatible for tracking), russians seems to be very happy with X band for long range tracking , the US designers as well (THAAD).

simulating gun passes.

How do you know this?

Is funny, because i got a document in which shows how to deal with a tank, and i get some people that were looking the plane doing maneuvers, in which one can’t define really the height speed or mission profile.

Sure

well, then they should be close, let’s say one is 35mm while the other is 30mm, where is the big deal, if you gonna get a lucky penetration in a weakened area?

I don’t get why all your crying TJJ, read again what i’m telling, BTW, check your crayon T-62 book, all aspects taken to attack the target, no high incidence aspect shown, no ‘right trough the top’ garbage.

very annoying crap BTW ‘you can’t believe all the things the gau8 can do against the rear tank’..tss, after 6 passes right?

Why not logon and run your theories past Dice-Man?

You must be kidding if i gonna do this..I’m telling you the difference between the facts and the hot macho bravado talking.

Not trying to convince people here, is up to you what you want to believe

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People can’t difference what is an anti X device, and what could be..below 500m..with a lot of luck..and a pray used as something close to an anti X device.

My concern is not where to place the hook, which probably will be a conventional one with a slightly longer tail, but how the internal structure will distribute the loads.

Remains to be seen, nobody , i think, can answer this with 100% of accuracy, although is probably not a big deal, they will probably make a very robust bomb bay 🙂

The structure/hook can be reinforced to the part of the main upper frame.

The bomb bay is part of the upper airframe as well, is in middle of everything

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Must say i’m starting to like th T50, at least is showing some innovations, and while all the 5th gen airplanes are more a evolution than a revolution from the 4th gem, at least the pakfa will try different things in terms of aerodynamics and structure.

Wonder if the landing gear design was intended for carrier operations, the Su-47 was actually intended for it, if i recall well.

Now the next problem , as somebody else pointed out, is where the arrestor should be placed, since the bomb bay is actually placed in the normal location, and how the russians will solve the load distribution for any arrestor located just behind the bomb bay…

That being said , i read somewhere that the rumour is the guy who took and leaked

I really, really doubt it

The PAKFA’s general (or almost…the actual) configuration was leaked with the saturn picture, i really think you guys are overrating how ‘important’ are these ‘secrets’.

I don’t think the T50 will get the ‘s-duct’, i’m still dreaming for some cones on the intakes..but since ‘square’ cones are not really practical I think will not happen 🙂

They will use blockers