Even with the awful low probability that pasive Amraams were used on a exercise, such thing show that the 22 LPI radar is not so LPI…

The Eurofighter and Su-35 have nothing comparable to the electronics on board an EA-18G. Additionally, seeing as how the circumstances of the kill weren’t discussed, we can only speculate as to what happened.

Most of it equipment is ECM stuff, that will not help the AIM120 to reach the target, not even their ELINT

Seeing as how we don’t know any details of the kill, it’s a bit silly to start arriving at conclusions. It may very well have been a passive shot, or some other combination of factors.

But then , again, we are talking about an incident that popped out of nowhere….and just was found by luck

This show one thing, the 22 was killed with a radar missile, an AMRAAM, not even a sidewinder…

So much for the “It won’t let me put a weapons system on it, even when I can see it visually through the canopy. annoys the hell out of me.” joke..

Funny is that such incident was discovered by accident…funny..

30-1 for the F-22, 3-1 for the F-35

A bit funny, that one is the typical “is 10 times better than…”, even for mounting their stuff some people are obvious…

And that is, the f22 performance is rising..first was 10:1, now 30:1, next time will be 100:1

Typical

Lockheed Martin is revealing proprietary data that show performance in several areas is better than baseline requirements…

Where is the “released” data?, the long claimed M1.7?, in which is not specific if is a intantaneus speed or dive “we did reach M17” at SC does not mean “we did a SC of M1.7”, the marble, gulf ball RCS joke is old..

Another rising performance…first it was M1.6, then it is m1.7, we are not that far for the M1.9, actually already there are some “rumors”…

Still in official data and internal documents the M1.5 persist

You’re absolutely right. The F-22 is stealthier than the F-35,

I really can’t see how is the f22 stealthier than the F-35, you will claim about the same crap of the “rounded stuff”, but is funny that, for the B-2 which is a very rounded design, such feature is part of it “stealth concept”….

The F35 engine is better masked -at least that is a real LO feature-, and for face hemisphere shaping is about the same or even better than the raptor, heck..even the cockpit glass is somewhat faceted, while the 22 is pretty conventional.., the only shape i wound consider a difference with the 22 is the intake “cones”, but then they are using the “blended gaussian stealth” *crap* , no?…….

There are some information from insiders that a mechanically moveable AESA (X-band) will be fit on PAK-FA. And Irbis radar is of course PESA.

Hexpop, can you give me the link about it?

Are the russians testing AESAs arrays mounted on moveable platforms, i think the RuAF pilots will prefer the Irbis than fixed array AESAs

LPI isn’t just using lower power settings. It’s using passive techniques so that RWR/ESM systems

One of the greatest misconceptions about AESA radars is the single tracking beam directionality and the search beam aperture

While conventional PESAs get a search aperture of arround 120º, the AESAs get a search aperture of 60-80º, the AESAs single tracking beam aperture (which is not all the radar scanning) is 120º

The AESA radars actually output more energy per scanned m2, helping the resolution of the radar itself, that is why AESAs get better resolution, is because they can concentrate more energy per area than PESAs, not because some electronic fairy trick, also that is why AESAs are considered to be used as ECMs

I’d say that with the rise of stealth designs the BVR would become less important (technically unfeasible) and WVR would slowly regain its lost position. That is why being only as good as an F-16 (read F-35) might soon be not good enough.

Well, i got news for you…the WVR combat never lost it…

The poor BVR combat performance will become almost inpractical against future fighters -but not against other type of easier targets, althought is still probematic in terms of technology, even against a 747 a BVR amraam can fail…and it fail probabilities are not negligible

People get shocked when compare the reality with typical aerospace tales, is simply impossible to believe that all these shinny pictures, these nice displays, these great movies are just telling commercial crap…well, they do..

That is one of the reasons why Riccioni is seen as a “troll”; reality against fancy promises..everyone want to be an ace…and if you dump over the crowd the bald with the cold water of the reallity…sure they will bash you to dead

The f-35 is not done yet, is still battling technologic problems in the engineering field, the marketing battlefiel is more appealing for the average Joe…is undertandable all the hype of these “sims”