the true about the Apaches is that those machines are helicopters, any helis is an vulnerable machine, so im not surprised if in fact was downed by woods and stones..the problem is that some guys think that an heli that cost 30millions isnt an heli :rolleyes:

ahhh, sens, man, im not like you, i mean, im not posting with 2-3 propaganda books in my hand, i know what is the diference between total planes deployed and planes in service in an determinated moment, im sure about the 700 f86 deployed in all the korean war, dont start with that “conspiration” theory, only based in an stupid mistake (the post deleted) :rolleyes:

sorry, i think i deleted the post by mistake, anyway thats very clear that the max -soviet- combat planes were in mid 1953 (300 migs15) and only 72 planes in mid 1951, and at mid 1953 were 300 f86, 300 f84, im sure about the 700 f86 deployed, but i still dont remember where i read that.

During the war, the F-86 pilots had no reason to show the secrets of their F-86s to their enemies

great, so the f86 pilots were pretty cool guys… :rolleyes:

i also posted in that the mirage3 planes were better piloted by israel pilots and the mig 15 had better g limit (8gs) than the f86 (6-7gs) -but i really dont remember well-, the mig was an better plan in agility and ceiling-climb rate, to say that transonic speed is an real advantage is ridicuolus, now try to use your brain sens;

, an plane that have low climb, low ceiling, and the best point is the dive!!!, …

Even you have to admit it’s pretty unlikely

man, if you are lucky enough, you can down an helichoper :p with woods and stones, one friend told me (in an funny ironic way) “thats the alas hand” 😀 😀 (he isnt islamic, that was only a joke)

castor, i think that you are confused, look, at mid 1951 there were arround 70 soviets migs, at mid 1953 there were 300 planes (not very active in combat, because the war was “stabiliced” at that time), at 1953 there were 300 f84s and 300 f86s, the usaf depolyed in korea arround 700 f86

the f4 wasnt the plane asignated for air superiority???

well, the controls are better than the f4 , and dont forget the extra lift of the fuselage and the high wing configuration (without fuselage turbulence-interference over wings) the wing isnt soo thicker, but yes is an fighter optimised for speed and heigh, obviusly not an f16

any 4th generation machine designed by canada???