Those are late 70s advanced tactical fighter studies, not F-X ones.
aerospacetech, do you have pics off the concepts for the FX??? how many proyects were involved, and the companies that support them???
well man, that was discussed before
comon, nice propaganda, man that was discussed before, do you want to compare an 8gs with high aspect wing with 7gs plane with that design???, comon….
i will put you in simple terms, seahawk, if the missile must climb to 10-13km to reach the target, the combat radius is lower at 5-3km, now, with all those sistems near to the border line, its simply stupid attack at low level (obviulsy for not specializated machines).
the mig23 was an much better machine that the f4 in maneuverability terms, the f15a wasnt so good (but it had an respected 7gs corner speed at low level), but at height that plane was penalized by the high bypass turbofans and huge wing area with low aspect,at maneuvres it lost apreciated energy -very aprecciated at heigh if you dont want lost altitude- (in fact the f14 was always considered better at such environment), theres not doubt that the f15c was much better, im not saying that the mig23 was more advanced than the f15s, the eagles have a good design with some problems, but the 23s can make an good use of those problems
to have an sparrow charge capacity doesnt mean that the plane have an truly bvr sistem, is like to say that the mig21bison is a bvr combat fighter,anyway i havent see many f16 with sparrow, maybe that was modified for later adaptations, i think that was a modification for the national guard
that also goes for the f16-amrram combo (at least for the mayority of the f16Cs)
the theoric antimatter engine only could be practical on very,very long range space ship, the main problem in such travels are the cuantify of “fuel” that you need (even if you use cessium ions), obviusly with few grams of positrons you wont need a monster reactor or accelerator, but an persistent ionic engine could be better to an alpha centaury travel (but you will need an bigger ship), also the positron rocket couldnt be very efficient, if you want to “burn” directly, you will need an super reflector, but high frecuency photon lose energy easier, the scientifics are working on some uncertainly quantum concepts (the famous antigravity, that isnt antigrav -only an popular name) those concepts could be more interesting, for an aircraft, i think that we could only expect some kind of tokamak fusion reactor, but we must wait at least 100 years.
staying high also reduces the SAMs radius interception range, it depends if you have an good ECM cover, the f15s are other topic, but i think that the superior mig23 numbers with the heigh performance and tactics would mantain controled the eagles at BVR, , having the both sides AWACS and radar strategic positions (emitters and receivers) and their troops moved to the border lines, i think that with the density of fire you need to play with the 3 dimension, again, your faster,have longer weapons range, better range etc…, but we are getting a little out of the main topic, floggers vs falcons.
i think that some guys have satanised the tailess delta concept, that configuration reborned with the unstable design, and is maybe the best for CCV-unstable planes.
now, there are other examples of aerodynamics configurations for 4th generation planes, like the use of relative high aspect trapezoid wings with LEX or the use of lift body fuselage, etc…
there some cases in wich the real performance didnt match with the simulation??and experiment?? in operative aircraft (at least in specifical conditions)??
well, i think that we must acept that the M2000 airframe is basically an 3-2th generation airframe, but such configuration appeared again with fbw and specially unstable design (that is an aerodynamic 4th generation concept)
how are the chinese in simulation????
hello flex, brute gorilla well very interesting replies, but is also true that in a simulation you must chose the math model, sometimes diferents math models shows diferents solutions, aerodynamics -i think- is still an very empirical science (wind tunel, experiments, etc)
“Sorry”, I was wrong about that, would have been enough from you.
comon sens, look , im not an complicated guy, we arent here to fight each to another, i dont understand why you take this very personal
For Mi-24,the energy that goes to the tail rotor is nearly 30%….is that big enought?
yes its BIG (if your correct), i didnt know, thanks, i thought that the percentage was between 5-10%
to have an sparrow charge capacity doesnt mean that the plane have an truly bvr sistem, is like to say that the mig21bison is a bvr combat fighter,anyway i havent see many f16 with sparrow, maybe that was modified for later adaptations, i think that was a modification for the national guard
sens….so????