Well, this one is a Hungarian MiG-21bis.
Hey Cy-24Driver1 thanks for the Sudanese Mig-29SE photo. ¡Great find!.
Is it me, or is this sudanese MiG-29, sporting a new camo?
Banshee, let us know please, do the F/FT-7s you’ve mentioned, carry any serials/insignia? Also the F-7s, are of the early type (forward hinging single piece canopy) with or without fin base located breaking parachute, or of the late type (two piece canopy)?
In a few words: A Romanian pilot defected in it to Yugoslavia; the yugoslav communists who considered Americans as friends, allowed them to ship the plane to the US, and the Area, in order to have it returned to them, after a month or so, and finally send it back to Romania.
I saw his incomplete palace in 1995, & got a long rant from a local about the stupendous waste involved in it. Also heard a lot about “systematisation”, gynaecologists being kept too busy screening for the use of prohibited contraceptives to do any useful work, Elenas ghost-written scientific papers, etc., etc. I asked someone how much the great folly in the centre of Bucharest cost, & was told that it cost “hundreds of beautiful old houses, churches, us having one 40 watt bulb which we could only replace when it failed, while the building site was floodlit 24 hours a day” – etc., etc.
In fact, it was a 60 Watt bulb, and one could replace it as often as desired; the problem was, that the replacement was always gonna be a 60 Watt bulb.
I guess that’s the one:
Those are pictures of Iraqi MiG23 in Serbia, in the second one you might see a MiG27 in the back
I think if the news are true we are talking about this aircraft.
The plane in the background, is an indigenous IJ-22 Orao attack aircraft.
:eek:Ugandan Mig-17 in camo scheme:eek:
Great find!
German Mig-29s, have been evaluated in the USA, even before Desert Storm, IIRC.
Sorry if my question hasn’t been clear enough. Here is an exemple of what I had in mind: I was wondering, what your oppinion is, relating to such claims like those on the part of the Israeli AF, according to which, they have shot down 29 Syrian AF fighters on 09-06-1982, to no loss, another 35 syrian fighters the next day, to no loss, and about 100 syrian planes in total, by the end of July 1982, to the loss of a single RF-4E, and an A-4 downed by SA-7.
“Within half an hour, we shot down about 26 MiGs,” David Ivry, who was second in command of the IAF at the time, previously told Air Force Magazine. See http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=69154,
also “the tally grew so, that by noon on Friday (11-06-1982), when a cease-fire took effect, IAF pilots had shot down 82 airplanes whithout losing any in air combat”
(see http://www.afa.org/magazine/June2002/0602bekaa.pdf).
Another similar case, is represented by the RAF pilots’ claims, to have scored 26 shoot-downs and 9 probables, to the loss of a single Gladiator, during an engagement with the Regia Aeronautica, over the greco-italian front, on 28-02-1941.
(see http://www.geocities.com/acrawford0/80RAF.html).
So, what do you folks think about these, or other similar claims? How likely is it, that events have unfolded the way described, or else said, to what percent should the claimed scores perhaps be reduced, in order to obtain a picture, somehow close to reality?
Hope this ain’t the best shot of you!!
Anyway, now I think I know, why you’re having a hard time to understand..
What about all those claims, involving tens of shoot-downs, during isolated incidents, or even hundreds of them, in wider engagements, which could have lasted several days, whith minimal or zero friendly losses, that have frequently come up in aviation history?
I’m not quite sure, two I think though(at the same time).
Later on, they’ ve been replaced by Ys-11s. Next a picture I ‘ve found; sorry for the resolution.
When I last visited the old Athens airport a civil registered DC-3 in a white / silver colour scheme with large areas of orange was parked under trees outside some offices (either the Greek Civil Aviation Authority or Air Traffic Control HQ) I would guess that it was previously used as a flight checker type by the civil authorities. I will try to dig out a picture.
That’s right. They belonged to the greek CAA, and were used for calibration purposes.