If this is so the Japanese must be ahead of everyone in AESA technology. Banzai!
japan first but they didnt upgrade or research anymore after that
J-10 has something like five center pylons.
yes. mig29 only have 1 middle one but it has 2 more wing one.
^^ Ouch!! These comments must be very painful for Pakistan … calling their all mighty fighter JF17 low tech and their skill set even lower. At least you could have said, Pakistan and China designed it together. Ready to sell J-10 to everybody else but not to Pakistan. When you can give n-weapons what is wrong with j-10.
What happened to “higher than Himalayas and deeper than sea” friendship and “iron brothers” :confused:
When dealing with Pakistan, prepare to give free lunch now and then … they are used to it…
you trolling.
pakistan want airplane they can build themself in case of a war. but pakistan dont have the engineer skill to do it so china help them and design it for them. jf17 is really for pakistan benefit not china.
but best fighter in pakistan is really f16. jf17 come close but f16 is better. that is why pakistan need j10b or j31 but cannot sell to pakistan until they get americans out.
also no iron brother thing. china will not deal with pakistan if not for india. india is big common threat.
how come you people cannot read!? no west aircraft! you cannot use gripen or american plane!!
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war in Sri Lanka is over.
but maybe Bangladesh could be a customer
bangladesh love chinese stuff. thats why they buy so much. jf17 can replace a5 and old j7.
but bangladesh state they want more powerful planes and their economy is getting good.
do they want j10b or even j31!?
Is Zimbabwe ordering J17?
no. china was ready to sell to zimbaabe but their money is no good. china system is simple. you have money we give, no money no give.
jf17 is made to be cheap but it is not made to be free.
there is a saying
you cannot drive a truck if you cannot afford the gas. you should stick to a moped.
DSI, Generation Zwei radar, superior Chinese engines.
yes! it has those things. engine come very soon
But seriously, what sort of response do you expect from a bot EElightning?
did not know eelightning is a bot.
I was being sarcastic… Poor attempt at humour.
So, what exactly are you trying to prove with the images? The images you posted are simply showing aircraft with radars in them. (By the way, that image of Typhoon shows it’s the Captor-M radar, a very old image). But what those images don’t show is how capable they are nor what they’re actually capable of. You can count the T/R Modules and work out the sizes of the antennas and one would get an idea of their Field of Regard, for example. But surely, if you took time to count the T/R Modules on each antenna and learn about their Field of Regard, you’d find out that Typhoon’s AESA has in excess of 1,400+ T/R Modules whilst the Rafale’s and J-10B’s each has a similar number of approximately 1,100 T/R Modules. It is also worth noting that the AESA radars on the Rafale and the J-10B have ‘fixed arrays’, where has the Typhoon’s Captor-E (AESA) has it’s array coupled to a ‘Repositioner’ giving it 220-Degrees WFoR, (Wide Field of Regard), significantly more than the former’s AESA’s arrays. Work it out.
you did not count it so i know you are lying.
why dont you count yourself. if you did you see j10b radar is around 1200
the typhoon iis around 1000. it even say so on their webpage! this is real. not like your deathstar
http://www.eads.com/eads/int/en/news/media.fe63a603-62e3-44d0-a9fb-b4b423e93889.-E-CAPTOR+Eurofighter+E-Scan+Radar.html
And, being ‘the first’ to have an AESA means little to nothing.
this is why you have no experience. being first mean you can be first to see how it work and then make change. it means j10b radar is more a pioneer.
you can see like jf17 and indian tejas, jf17 made it first and paf is giving feed back already to make the next block version.
I could post an image of the Death Star but it wouldn’t prove anything. So how about you try to explain your claims in detail?
i dont understand point of yours. death star is not real. its from a movie called star track. it is not airplane neither. you cannot compare that to j10 or rafael or whatever.
the picture i post is real evidence.
you do not understand. jf17 design is special design made for pakistan so they can build fighter for themself. pakistan do not hve strong engineering background so china had to design fighter for pakistan skill sets.
for exports china can do j10a or b instead. it is much more capable airplane. but i do not think china will permit license building of it. if a country want to build it by license, they need to go jf17 instead
that is why china try to do things on their own. india need to realize that it should not depend on outside for so much.
indians smart, they can make their own things if they have courage.
Would you like to explain in greater detail about those claims?
Or are they just narrow minded one liners?
no need one line. picture says all 🙂![]()


didn’t you also write that the jf-17 could beat the su-30mki once it got aesa and long range missiles?
i dont know if jf17 can get aesa but j10b can take on su30mki.
j10b is like euroopean typhoon but more advance because it has aesa radar first and many hard points and good range.
j10b with aesa may not come in service as fast as rafael but rafael aesa is limited because the nose is so small and the airplane does not have enough thrust.
j10b in paf can take on everything in indian af. but when pakfa come out paf need j31 for sure.
why UK let these kind of guys in? much of the problems in UK is from immigrants.