They could get rid of the older ones, to incorporate newer models. Other option is a wet lease to SAA.

Insults to the goverment in the parliament as they were coming in. Demostrations in all the capitals at 12:00, and anger and dissappointing all over.

I didn´t want listening to him, it´s not my president. I knew what he was going to say, besides I don´t want horror tales at night (it was at 2.00 am). I heard it on the news…mesianic, tragical, simplistic and quite basic arguments. Nothing new. Clinton would have been much more fun.

Originally posted by ELP
So you are affraid of being a target? I would say Spanish law enforcement is doing a pretty good job of routing out terrorists.
If you want to appease the Arab world because you are affraid of going after terrorists I guess that is you own business.

As you have pointed we have been doing a good job arresting terrorists, and I don´t change that for my safety. But supporting an attack to a whole country is something quite different. We would achieve more arresting guys, than combating it with guns. Terrorism is a hidden enemy with no face. I am sure if they are in Iraq, they´ll move to other country.

Originally posted by TTP
Zippo,

, these scum hate all of us including Spain, .

There´s a clear link between Spain and the Arab world, due to our common history. Unfortunately, and I say unfortunately, these psycos, and I remark Bin Ladden words, think Spain is the “lost brother” which needs to come back to the arab world, or Al-andalus as they call us. Bin Ladden used to have a house in the South of Spain when he was politically correct. In any case, I don´t want these type of “friends”. Now and due to Aznar alighment with Bush the arab world feels that we have betrayed them (we had played a key role as mediators between the arab world, israel and the west) and I am affraid we´ll have just become another target for these thugs. That´s what I meant by being quiet. :confused:

You are mixing two things. I want my country to keep aside and quiet in general terms, not only applied to Iraq. But although my country be quiet, I am feel unsecure about the new policy which want to impose the US in the external panorama and which of course affects my country. As fas as Maine theory is concerned I probably explain myself in a wrong way. No theory has been proved yet. In other time, Spain was made responsible. Now due to the wreck study, there are theories telling that an explosion inside might have caused the sank. The origen….that´s where the historicians will try to draw a theory which suits his own country, patriotism or interest.

Originally posted by SOC
JFK is not a reason to love the US. The man had issues. .
Look how well they did with Hitler and Milosevic?

Well, I accept Hitler…..I would like to know what it would happen if the US hadn´t intervined in the war…..wouldn´t we be able to set ourselves free?, not a reproach, just a question. But your didn´t do anything with our local ditator, Franco. Well, Spanish wouldn´t enjoy external intervention. It was our naughty man. And about Milosevic, well more doubts. He was overthrown by his own people, by the yugoslavs, great way…..without a shoot. Did the war contributed?, or prevented him from falling before?. Hard question. I feel that the best way to overthrown bad guys is from inside.

I am going to get a basic example by Bush theories, let´s combat terrorism with bombs…..uhhh, ETA members are in the basque country, and protected by the nationalist goverment there and a sector of the public…..oppps, shall we see Aznar bombing Bilbao?. (Basque country main city). I though terrorism was fight with wise measures. Should Blair bomb Belfast?…..:rolleyes: