If you were to built flying replicas then it will cost millions. That said, if you choose the right aircraft, you might end up with a few orders. My money would be on the Typhoon (single engine). I would imagine that there maybe three or four collectors who would pay $1.5m each for an exact replica. Let’s say you had three orders that would be $4.5m. Does it matter that the aircraft are built in the UK? I would imagine that the first thing to do was undertake an expressions of interest – emailing the right people. Yes we are in the middle of a recession, but people still have money to burn. You’d need a main contractor (Hawker Restorations or other) and plans. Access to original material would be helpful. Just a suggestion…
Hello
Does it have to be an aircraft hangar? We are in the middle (?) of a recession, with plenty of empty business units and even shops. Perhaps you could secure a good deal to help you along the way until you need something bigger. Talk to your local council and Business Link – Just a suggestion.
Wonderful. Now if only the money could be found to do the same with Sally B? Regarding money, how much did it cost to polish? Another aircraft that could do with the same treatment is one or both surviving Queen’s Flight Andovers, currently located in Africa.
Well, as most of the work is in the labour, NOT materials, about the same.
Bruce
Hello Bruce, so a static Spitire around £1m? OUCH! No wonder there aren’t that many original Spitfires on display in museums (apart from the main national or a few regionals).
Then again, if I had a £1m, I’d rather spent it on a number of airworthy replicas (DH4A, Avro 504N, Miles M1 Saytr, Westland-Hill Pterodactyl, etc).
Must stop having these silly day-dreams.
From being a replica to something more…
…real?
We know that Spitfire TR MKIX G-ILDA (apparently converted from a Mk1 : snigger) will go for around £1.5m, how much for a real static example, built by the same people? Less paperwork and non-airworthy parts should reduce the costs considerably? And how much for a Hurricane (same specs.)?
Phil
Edwards AFB, AF Plant 42 & a few places that *don’t exist*
Oh, please do tell…
I’m still trying to find out where the USAF/CIA operate their stealth V/STOL tactical transport aircraft from in the UK? You know, that black triangle that flies only at night and when over populated areas it switches on these bright lights so that those below think it’s a UFO, flown by ET.
Apparently it was designed in the wake of the failed rescue attempt to free US hostages in Iran 30 years ago.
It would have been cheaper to a restore a EE Lightning (under French or German registration) and fly it to the UK each Summer. After the type’s post-service safety record in South Africa, the CAA might even allow one to be flown with G-MARKings. Your not telling me that the EE Lightning is a more costly and complex aircraft to fly than the Vulcan?
Accordingly to their website:
In keeping with common practice (?), on grounds of both security (?) and copyright, we regret that no cameras, video recorders or any other types of recording equipment (including notebooks) are allowed in the Museum.
VERBAL ABUSE of any kind will NOT be tolerated. [SNIP] We have had occurrences where rude members of the public have sworn, committed criminal damage and threatened physical harm to our members. These people will not be tolerated and they will be ejected, using reasonable force if applicable. Please accept it is also our right to eject you from the museum if you do not abide by our rules regarding photography etc. without a refund as you will have already entered with the understanding that you have accepted our conditions before you purchased a ticket. We are glad to say that 98 per cent of our visitors are courteous, understand our rules and a as consequence have an enjoyable trip to the museum.
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Firstly, not being able to take photographs is no excuse for verbal abuse. EVERYONE should abide by the rules.
That said, I don’t know of any museum that posts such an irate TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF ENTRY on its website. But you have to ask yourself why would members of the public want to verbal abuse the staff of this museum (which they paid good money to enter) and also, what constitutes verbal abuse? Does this message constitute written abuse? Making a discreet complaint, does that constitute abuse? The Kent Battle of Britain Museum has a serious problem regarding it’s paranoia over people taking pictures. This is Hawkinge NOT Area 51!!!
Copyright Issues? Unless you plan to publish your own illustrated guidebook and sell it directly outside their entrance, I don’t think anyone is going to make any money out of this museum or its exhibits. Maybe this negative attitude is why they haven’t secured any external funding? Any information displayed should be openly, freely and publicly disseminated (names and dates, etc), and to prevent the taking of notes goes against the ethos of educating future generations of what happened in Kent during 1940.
I guess this issue has been raised before, but I don’t know of any aviation museum in the UK that doesn’t allow photography or is so obsessed with people with cameras.
Also, according to the Kent Battle of Britain Museum website, “We are glad to say that 98 per cent of our visitors are courteous, understand our rules and as consequence have an enjoyable trip to the museum.” Does that mean that 2% are not courteous? Not sure how many visitors they attract, but if the figure is 10,000pa then that’s 200 people who’ve been rude and obnoxious. I don’t know of any museum that attracts so many naughty visitors…!
I was under the impression that the aircraft was an intact Halifax, complete with a 4000lb cookie still attached?
Another question for you: how easy would it be to start manufacturing the Gipsy Moth (to buy complete and ready to fly) – perhaps utilising a welded steel fuselage frame (less parts = lower price) and a new engine? Would there be a market for such an elegant aeroplane, though? And would you buy an aircraft that although looked and flew like the original, contained parts probably manufactured in China and America (again to keep costs to a minimum)? One idea to reduce manufacturing costs perhaps would be to make each wing rib out of a single sheet of plywood cut my laser, or have them properly made in China, but not out of bamboo :o)
And how much would you be prepared to pay for one?
🙂 Well Done Australia…
…the Space shuttle and other delights, too. What a delightful museum you chaps are going to have and with such a large budget too. You chaps must be pleased as pun…
…wait a minute, wait a minute!!! 😮 How many hours are you chaps ahead of us? Is it April already down under? Me smells something akin to a prank, the type of which only shows up but once a year.
Cheeky Blighter!!! :rolleyes:
Great shots everyone, We have over 8000 images in our archive, I will sift through some and post them up when I have more time.
Hello, do you have any photographs of Buccaneers taken at RAF Driffield or being towed there from Brough (this circa 1968 while HOSM was having its runway resurfaced)?
Best Wishes
Phil Rhodes
Great idea. And the centrepiece could be the Belfast you saved?::diablo:
regards,
kev35
You, you, you are one and a proper one at that (not a very good selection of Smilies, is there)…
…I don’t know which one to use, you cheeky funster :p (?)
Regarding the last remaining airworthy Belfast, I once had the idea for the RAF Tranport Museum located near Brize Norton to house:
1 Belfast (last airworthy example) FLOWN IN
2 VC10 (original No.10 Squadron example) FLOWN IN
3 Tristar FLOWN IN
4 Britannia (Kemble)
5 Comet (Lynham)
6 DC3 (Lynham)
7 C130 (Lynham) FLOWN IN
8 Andover (Former QF – currently located in Africa) FLOWN IN
9 DH4a (replica)
10 Devon
11 Twin Pioneer (Coventry Spare)
12 Pembroke
13 Whirlwind
14 Sycamore
All contained in a 300ft x 300ft ASDA/Tesco style shed and run by volunteers (from Brize Norton). Not actually built on MoD land because there isn’t the room and the paper work involved (Whitehall) would be a nightmare.
Off course nothing will happen. Nothing ever does. The Comet (if it isn’t scrapped) will probably go to the DH Heritage Centre, while the DC3 will be moved to BN. The Belfast will probably remain in OZ when she is retired. The other aircraft are available apart from the Britannia, which might one day find shelter in one of Kemble’s hangars.
Dismantle EVERYTHING and make a new museum in the country 😀 :diablo:
Dismantle EVERYTHING and make a new museum in the center of London – enlarged to take in civil airliners (Heathrow’s Concorde and Duxford’s VC10, etc). 😀 :diablo:
“Saint Jude, Hope of the Hopeless, Pray for me…”
Although English Heritage have thrown money at creating detailed reports and on undertaking an extensive site survey, only the hangars at Scampton are listed, so cannot be demolished (until they have been delisted). The rest of the site can be cleared without too much bother or upset.
Until someone stands up and takes a stand (bangs the drum), this will continue and continue until nothing is left. Yes it’s great to explore these sites on a weekend, but what do you do when they’ve all gone?
The problem with banging the drum is that you line yourself up to be both ridiculed and marginalised. It’s not nice to have one’s emails ignored or telephone calls not returned. Luckily we have the patron saint of desperate cases and lost causes, namely Saint Jude to fall back on:
“Saint Jude, Hope of the Hopeless, Pray for me…”
Not a religious type, but if all else fails…
You know, I was going to write another paragraph about the plight of RAF Scampton, once the home to so many fine men, women and famous squadrons, but why bother. Sorry! Personally I think Stonehenge is a waste of space. No one really knows why it was built; It’s derelict, and therefore the land on which it is built on can be classed as brownfield – ideal for redevelopment. I say knock it down!