Many thanks for posting these vintage photos. Have checked out the Tempest II history – PR550 was used for stores trials by Hawker and A&AEE in 1948 and then shipped out to Seletar where it was in store from August 1949. It was eventually issued to 33 Squadron in March 1951 but was back in store by June of the same year. It was transferred to the Pakistani Air Force in 1952.
Looking forward to the rest. Thanks again.
In absence of evidence from the photos I would strongly suggest that the roundels were over-painted and the wingtips outboard of the stripes were Night (black).
Appendix ‘F’ to the Air Force Operation Order for ‘Starkey’ states that taking a datum line around the airfoil section where it measures 5 feet, outboard of this line was to be covered with Distemper Night. Inboard of the datum was to be marked alternatively with two white and two black stripes (18″ wide on single-engined fighters, 24″ on twins), using Distemper White and Distemper Night. There is no mention of leaving the national markings and the diagrams clearly show the stripes covering the area where the roundels would be.
The nose on twin-engined aircraft was to be Distemper White, extending 5 feet 6 inches back from the nodse-tip but not covering any perpex panels.
Supplies of the distemper were available from 7 MU Quedgely and 70 MU Woodcote.
Whirlwind ‘Starkey’ markings
In addition to the markings quoted by MrBlueSky, the wing tips outboard of the outer white stripe were painted black.
So starting from the stripe nearest the fuselage the stripes went black/white/black/white/black tip. D-Day stripes of course went white/black/white/black/white!
The markings were on for about a week; they had been painted in distemper, for easy removal. I have a copy of the original doc which promulagated the markings.
Civil Repair Organisation
Many of the smaller aviation companies held repair and modification contracts (as well as the parent manufacturers). So, for example, Taylorcraft at Reasby repaired Hurricanes and then Typhoons, as did Marshall of Cambridge, Reid and Sigrist handled Mitchells, Air Service Training – Spits. There must be a big list waiting to be compiled – or is there one already?
269 Squadron
An hour or so down the M4 from you is the National Archive at Kew, where 269’s Operations Record Book can be viewed on microfilm (in the Air27 series).
Alfred’s Tower crash
The tower is at the northern end of the National Trust property at Stourhead; I visited it November and climbed the tower. It stands 160 feet high on the top of a high ridge – so I doubt if fog was the culprit – more likely low cloud? A plaque in the tower commemorates the crash and identifies the aircraft as a ‘De Havilland Norseman’. Did De Havilland Canada build the type under licence?
Rufforth Typhoon
According to a news item in Air Pic in 1955, Rufforth received a composite Typhoon (parts from DN502, MN282 and MN601). Does anyone know where it came from, how long it was at Rufforth and if it was displayed there? It seems to have been the last Typhoon in the UK until MN235’s return in 1968.
Any other contenders for ‘the last Typhoon’ (other than Hendon’s and current rebuilds?
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Jack Collins
Thats a kind thought. I know Jack’s son, Mike, and will drop him a line.
3 sqn history
Your best published source of 3’s Typhoon era is ‘A View From The Office’ by R.W.Pottinger, who joined the Squadron soon after they received Typhoons. Published 2004, ISBN 0-9546180-0-4.
3 Squadron
Yes, its is Manston, but 3 Squadron, not 609. The CO is Sqn Ldr L.F.de Soomer (Belg), centre front row in the forage cap. To the right (partly hidden by the crease) is Flt Lt Jack Collins (who later would command 245 Sqn and was KIA in Normandy. To the left of de Soomer is Flt Lt W.A.MacKichan would command 56 Sqn on Tempests in the last months of the war. Time is summer 1943 – possibly August – to mark the occasion of de Soomer leaving the Squadron.
M.20 canopy
Was the Miles M.20 canopy completely clear? I have seen drawings (no guarantee!) which show a supporting frame running fore and aft along the top of the canopy. Anybody got good photos?
And come to think of it maybe the Typhoon is hailed as the first to enter service with the bubble canopy.
Might as well join in this thread of the partially-sighted leading the partially-sighted! The Typhoon and Thunderbolt canopies differ considerably in dimensions and contours so I suspect the relationship between the two is that Republic borrowed the concept and the technology that was required.
The Typhoon canopy was of course used on the Tempest but also the Sea Fury and Firebrand. However the windscreen on the Sea Fury was different (smaller) – doubt to accomodate the changes to fuselage contour brought about by raising the cockpit to give the pilot a better view forward. Don’t know about the Firebrand windscreen.
Incidentally, although the Typhoon is usually hailed as the first with a complete ‘bubble canopy, some critics would have you believe the Whirlwind or Fw190 was first – yet both of these had framework supporting the glazing.
Kemble safety film 1946
I saw this film in the 80’s – it was on loan (presumably from some MoD safety organisation) to an Air Training Corp unit. It included a brand new Typhoon (SW683) with dummy pilot crashing on the runway after a tyre burst on take-off (or landing?) to illustrate the hazard of parking with tyres under stress.
34 WSU
I believe 34 Wing Support Unit operated on the same basis as the other (Group) Support Units in 2nd TAF, ie. it was there to maintain a pool of trained aircrew (and fully prepared aircraft) appropriate to its parent Wing, to replace losses as they occurred. As such it would not be responsible for training basic skills but for providing conversion training and continuation training for aircrew who were already experienced or had completed OTU training. If night reconnaissance training had not been undertaken elsewhere then it would have been provided by 34 WSU.