Hmm, G-ANSY, I’m a York, slow and plodding…..
Point is though someone asks the hypothetical ‘wouldn’t it be a good idea to do x?’ as you would in a pub – and let’s face it, the forum IS a kind of virtual pub, then strangely he’s jumped on for suggesting something that would be quite sensible, mutually beneficial to museum and volunteers and provide a bit of fun too for no really apparent reason. Am I missing something here? It’s not as if this is a ‘one off’ – what agendas are the nay-sayers working to and who died and made them Pope?
This post in particular, and most of the others in general, just shows a complete lack of understanding of political and commercial pressures on the UK manufacturers / forces of the day
Oh I have a very good understanding of the deployment of the F3 having been part of the work-up working alongside 228 OCU and I’m not much interested in the political machinations or BAe’s need to make a fast buck.
The F3 is/was a heap of junk; its only virtue was its supposed cheapness – except it wasn’t. In modern parlance it ‘is not fit for purpose’. How the hell did anyone have the nerve to give it a ‘F’ designation when it’s marginally worse at dog-fighting than a laden Wayfarer? Defenders may say it was only designed to chase Bears, problem is it couldn’t even do that at altitude.
Have I mentioned I don’t like the F3? 🙂
Another vote for the F3
Let’s see, convert a mud-mover specalised for smooth low-level operation and then wonder why it can’t outclimb a Chipmunk with a four thousand pounder bomb load and takes corners like an greased pig on ice
Pile of poo
Don’t know if this ones been said:
Bucaneer – Banana Jet
Dunno, a Buck’s a Buck…..
Surprised he’s not badged up as a WOP/AG rather than a ‘straight’ AG
Any bloke who was on Shacks or even had dealings with them and didn’t know the term Shacklepin must have been in a different Air Force
That will be me then – ages spent talking to ‘Anyface’ Shacks, occasionally known as Shackelbombers – wonder who’s Air Force I was in? Just because we never called the Phantom anything else but an F-4 doesn’t mean other people didn’t use ‘Toom or whatever was hip and happening at the time
Cannon port, avionics and undercart panels from a Jaguar T2 of 16 Sqn that was being scraped as I was leaving the mob – thanks Chief for letting me raid the scrap bin! Mach meter from Neatishead’s Meteor, ARC 52 frequency card from Colt’s Canberra – lightfingered Maple! What can I say – I was young and I thought they were going to get scrapped. Mark 1 bonedome care of a friend with AAC conections, WW1 style flying helmet with goggles – which might be a left over from the RFC or early motorcycle get-up
CO2 bottle from a Luftwaffe ‘May West’ recovered by my good self when the (modern) Luftwaffe EOD were clearing RAF Gatow (Berlin) in 1992. Missed a Ju-88 undercart leg and a FW-190 wing.
Weren’t some Tiger Moths fitted with bomb racks and as a consiquence anti-spin stakes as an anti-invasion measure? Wouldn’t such a mod make them defenders?
No, just spilt my tea….
I’ve just done a scan of the channel tuning record card I stole from Canberra WE173 back in 198* if that’s any help – if someone will host it
Edited to add – oh ******, must learn to read before heading to loft, it’s for an ARC52 set RAF Form 4072
By the way, does anyone know what had a PTR175 fitted?
Just to add something else Norfolk county council have put the 1946 UK air survey photos for the county on line, now whilst the quality isn’t fantastic you can spit screen compare and contrast with the 1988 survey or the old OS mapping. It might be possible to spot aircraft dumps/pits on the many airfields from the ’46 photos and identify the current locations using the ’88 survey – just a thought
Lets see Scorp, how many Meteors were shot down by piston engined fighters? 😉
According to the Luftwaffe, Jumo engines had a 10 hour inspection and a 15 hour replacement cycle – still, saves doing any maint I guess. According to post-war analysis the kill ratio wasn’t all it was cracked up to be either!
Nah, DG202 is the winner of “Fab world class heratage Jet”:)
There is no basis to say that the Meteor was more practical than the 262
apart from the small matter of engine life? I’ve been on Squadron pi**-ups that lasted longer than the life cycle of Jumo 004 engines 🙂 Call me picky but the aircraft with engines that don’t work isn’t pratical, on the other hand the Meatbox was solid, rugged and didn’t throw compressor blades at 5 min intervals!