Sun? In Australia? Not rain then?
A close friend visited Australia last year for 2 weeks of Airshows and Museums…..
AND IT RAINED!!
It rained enough that his prebooked P51 flight was cancelled because the airfield was waterlogged.
Now if I want to see aeroplanes in the rain I don’t need to go to Australia because as you quite correctly point out, I live in Cambridgeshire!!!
Cheers
Willow
Unfortunately I don’t take video, but if it’s of interest I saw the display and thought it to have the following qualities…..
The aeroplane was well positioned for the crowd – Nice
The aeroplane stayed within sight of the crowd – Nice
Both top and underside photos could easily be taken during the display – Nice
No unneccessary aerobatics – Nice
From an audio point of view the power setting were high enough for the engine to be heard, but not so high that the engine was screaming – Nice
At no point did the aeroplane appear to be in an unsafe attitude – Nice
(one instinctively knows when something looks wrong!!)
Left a worthwhile impression of what a Mustang is like in the air (even the missus who has never been to an airshow before commented on it!!)
Overall – I liked it!! Well done. 10/10. More of the same please.
Hope all this rambling by a non-pilot (but enthusiastic spectator) helps a bit.
Regards
Willow
I’ve finally escaped!!
The only way I would have noticed the flypast if it was during the ceremony would have been if it had dropped a 1000lb bomb on the Church!!
Despite this, may I send thanks to anybody involved in the attempt. The effort is much appreciated.
Sadly, my work takes me out on site most days at the moment, so I’m just not getting the chance to visit the forum. Today heat has driven me inside!!
Regards
Willow
I wonder how many pages there would be in the Restoration manual for a Sunderland.
Several million probably!!
To appropriately quote the BoB film…..
‘Bloody marvelous’.
Brilliant, stunning, fantastic……
There just aren’t enough words.
Willow
Cosford, Coventry, Elvington, Newark, and Doncaster Aeroventure are all good museums that are reasonably centrally located. I’m happy to go to any of these (all assuming that the railway has quietened down by then, of course).
I’ve never been to East Fortune, but I’d really love to go. If a meet is planned then I’ll be up for it.
Why not set up a Poll, as was suggested earlier. Not a bad idea at all.
If we’re going to Cosford, it’d be nice to look round the restoration and storage areas if possible. Does anyone know how to arrange it?
Willow
Hopefully later, but somehow I don’t think so.
If the agreement was terminated by Shuttleworth, is it possible that the LVG (which has been airworthy for some years now) would soon need some major, and therefore expensive, restoration work to keep it airworthy, and that the best option was to hand it back to the RAFM who would only need to do enough work for static display?
Good to know that they intend to restore it to as close to it’s original condition as possible, though. The restoration work carried out by the RAFM these days looks to be world class.
It’s a sad loss for Old Warden though. The only genuine WW1 German aeroplane still airworthy was quite something.
Willow
Now ammended my post also. Sorted.
Sorry, can’t help being pedantic.
Cheers
Willow
Well, as I always enjoy a good read, I’m really into the Battle of Britain, and I’ve already spotted that you’ve spelt ‘chapter’ as ‘chaper’ in your second sentence, I guess I might be able to help you!!! 🙂
Seriously, I’d be more than happy to give it a read for you.
Cheers
Willow
Moggy,
You are quite right, of course, the Gladiator and Spit ARE looped and rolled at Shuttleworth, but NOT while in formation, if you see what I mean.
The BBMF fighters each perform a ‘Victory Roll’ at the end of there show, but it is a climbing roll, hence gaining height and therefore safety.
Actually, you’re damn right!! It’s far too long since I went to Old Warden 🙁
DIGBY
Only by discussing what has happened can it be prevented from happening again. The good old ‘head in the sand’ routine is not the answer here.
Willow
Originally posted by Mark V
I was refering to the entire world, not just the UK. The museum fires include Le Bourget, CWH, South America (can’t remember which country). If you go back to 1978, San Diego. The point I was trying to make was that if it is being suggested that flying warbirds in the way we do at the moment (ie: not just flat manouevers) should be stopped, the alternative (keeping aircraft in static museums) does nothing to improve the long term chances of survival.
All very well, but surely the issue here is loss of life.
You don’t mention how many museum staff were lost per aircraft.
If a single seat fighter crashes and the pilot dies it is a personal tragedy. As we have seen though, sometimes the aeroplane is rebuilt to fly again (Rolls-royce Spit being an example).
If a museum catches fire and 15 single seat fighters are destroyed it is a collosal waste and very sad, but no-one has lost their life. Look at the recent fire at the National Motorcycle Museum in Birmingham. Losing 600 bikes in a fire is a loss to the national heritage, but losing 1 bike and rider is a personal tragedy
for somebodys family and friends. It’s a big difference.
Stuffing aeroplanes into museums may not save them, but it may save lives.
That point made, however, I agree that aeroplanes should remain in the air. The BBMF and Shuttleworth aeroplanes are, in my opinion, displayed very well without the need for loops, rolls, and cuban eights.
I would be quite happy to see a Spitfire in the air without it needing to be either inverted or only 35ft AGL. Formations such as the ‘balbo’ finale to Legends are fine, but tight formation aerobatics (i.e. loops), although spectacular, add just too much risk. Even the Red Arrows and Thunderbirds have accidents occasionally, and they do a hell of a lot of practise.
In short…. keep ’em flying – safely
Willow
I have nothing helpful to add, just a comment.
I am amazed that the RAF Museum has not lept in to save this airframe. The Beverley Beverley (!!) is, after all, the sole remaining example of a well known RAF type. The RAFMs business, surely, is to preserve the RAFs heritage. This would be a classic example of doing just that.
Yes, I know it will cost money, something that all museums are always short of, but having just been ‘gifted’ a P51D Mustang for display at Hendon, why not sell off the previous example to raise the funds necessary to save the Beverley. It is surely better to have one Mustang and one Beverley than it is to have two Mustangs.
I understand (because I read it in Flypast!) that the original Mustang is now on display at Cosford. I think this makes it the only type and sub type of aircraft to be on display at both Hendon and Cosford except for the Vulcan B2.
I know that all this isn’t going to happen, of course, I just wanted a little rant on the subject. 🙁
Willow
Are the multi-storey car parks at LGW a ‘no-go’ area the same as at LHR? I remember having great views of landing traffic from the top level.
Actually, doesn’t BAA stand for Bloody Awful Airports?:)
Willow
‘Fertile Myrtle’ was dismantled for restoration and remains so. The nose and fin were on display at Tamiami in 1999 and 2001 at least, but I assume they have moved on now that the museum has changed hands.
Kermit Weeks said (at Polk City in April 2002) that he would like to get the B29 flying for a round the world tour in 2005, but I don’t think he actually expected it to happen!!
Willow
My apologies to everyone for quite simply not turning up on saturday.
Unfortunately, historic aviation is not the only thing to take a bashing by the press recently, and as I have the misfortune to work for Britains marvelous(?) railway system and my patch includes Kings Cross, you can prehaps understand that I have been rather busy at work recently and that has included weekends. It’s also why I have been almost totally absent from the forum for the last two weeks as I am nowlargely based out on site.
Anyway, enough excuses. I’m glad you all had a great day, and I hope to catch you all at the next one.
Cheers
Willow