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  • in reply to: What are aviation museums for? #1256945
    Willow
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    Good thread!

    I think that part of the problem with trying to get young people (this makes me feel old) into museums is the word ‘museum’. In many people’s eyes, it conjours up an impression of a stuffy ‘library’ like building, a quiet atmosphere with artifacts hidden behind the glass. The worrying thing is that Hendon (as much as I personally enjoy it) almost fits this description perfectly!
    In this age, where the Second World War is something that happens on a Playstation or X-box, a visit to a ‘museum’ just isn’t exciting enough. Bored kids dragged round by an enthused parent will resist on principle.
    Unfortunately, a lot of important history isn’t actually very easy to display in a terribly exciting manner.
    Interactive displays and videos are a good way of beating this, but I imagine that they’re expensive to create, maintain, and operate.
    Obviously, if you have an active airfield as well, you go a long way to solving this problem, but, using Duxford as an example, if you visit on an airshow day viewing the museum itself is next to impossible due to the huge number of visitors.
    Open cockpit days and ‘hands-on’ exhibits are another great idea, but however carefully this is done it is still not in the long term best interests of the exhibit. I guess if you have ‘spare’ aircraft, like the Jet Provost in Hendon, then this isn’t so much of problem.

    Nostalgia, they say, is all in the past. This is more true than you would imagine. Take the preserved railway scene as an example. 20 years ago, all the steam loco’s were painted in the colours of pre-grouping pre 1948 railway companies (LNER,LMS,GWR etc) because visitors would remember seeing those colours in service so it would be nostalgic.
    Having just visited a preserved railway, I was surprised to discover that all (without exception) of the steam locos there were in British Rail colours. This, I realised, is because many of todays visitors remember seeing steam locos in service in BR times. So nostalgia has moved forward in time. The pre-grouping times are now ‘history’ rather than nostalgia. The next phase of this is preserved diesel locos which is already happening, and this happened to me because a preserved diesel was there and I thought ‘oh yes, I remember those’, so the diesel was nostalgia for me (not that I prefer diesel to steam!).
    The same, of course applies to aircraft. WW1 aircraft are history. WW2 aircraft are fast becoming history (how many of you Spitfire or Mustang fans out there actually remember them from the 40s? – and yes I know there are several, but I’m making a point!). They’re impressive aeroplanes, but they’re not nostalgia, they’re history. The current stage is classic jets like Hunters. These are nostalgia now. In 10 years time, the Hunter or Phantom will only be history and the Tornado and Jaguar will be nostalgia (if they aren’t already!).
    So, to get to the point, museums can help themselves keeping up with the times. To get younger people interested, presenting items of recent history might help. This, of course, isn’t easy because anything recent is either still in use, still secret, or far too expensive to buy for a small museum.

    I’m afraid that I don’t have any answers to the above, but to me, getting kids interested in history is very important to the future of museums and historic aviation as, to coin a phrase ‘history doesn’t have a future without help from the present’.

    Hope this all makes sense!

    Willow

    in reply to: Hurricane crash at Shoreham Airshow #1261530
    Willow
    Participant

    Both!

    When originally restored it was painted as BE417. It then became well known in a black and red night fighter colour scheme coded ‘LK-A’. Over last winter it was recovered and repainted as BD707.

    Willow

    in reply to: Spotted #1262318
    Willow
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    Saturday 15th Sep.
    Mustang cavorting South-east of Ipswich at about 2:30pm.

    Very nice, thank you!!

    Also this week:-

    Merlin powered Spitfire low over Norwich on Monday (10th Sep) circling city centre. Any particular reason for this or was it just to brighten my day(and which one was it)?

    5 x MH53 in close formation over Woodbridge, Suffolk at 2:45pm on Thursday (13th Sep) heading Northwest. Impressive!

    Willow

    in reply to: Hurricane crash at Shoreham Airshow #1262346
    Willow
    Participant

    A sad reminder of how fragile life is, and how quickly it can be taken away.

    My sincere condolences to the pilots family and friends.

    Alan.

    in reply to: Spotted #1253837
    Willow
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    Sunday 1st July – Ipswich

    8.30am Antonov An12 off Stansted climbing East.

    2.05pm B17 + 2x P51D heading for Parham – lovely formation!!

    Cheers
    Willow

    My apologies if anybody doesn’t think that An12’s are old enough or interesting enough to be mentioned here, but I do!!

    in reply to: Spotted #1253841
    Willow
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    It may well have been my Chipmunk. It was out and about that day with someone else at the helm. I just did a short flight that day from Little Gransden to Panshangar in the evening. Sorry for the tardy response.

    Not as tardy as mine!!
    Many thanks.
    Willow

    in reply to: Parham 1st July – Operation Bolero #1253846
    Willow
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    Sadly, we didn’t make it in the end, but we were treated to a flyby by Sally with the 2 Mustangs in a very good formation. This was over Southern Ipswich (obviously) at about 2.05pm so must have been on the way in to Parham. Great to see. James (13months – wow it’s gone so fast) got very excited and even the Mrs (usually a total non-aviation person) was impressed.

    Sadly, I suspect that most people would assume it was the BBMF and I’m amazed that nobody has yet asked me what the Lancaster and 2 Spitfires were doing on Sunday!!!

    Cheers
    Willow

    P.S. Actually, I thought the formation was as good if not better than the usual BBMF

    Willow
    Participant

    Thanks to everybody concerned for trying. We’ll still look forward to seeing ‘Miss Velma’ in the near future (an epic flight, even more so now it’s alone), and maybe seeing ‘Glacier Girl’ further in the future.
    I’m sure this won’t be the last attempt!!

    Willow

    in reply to: Aircraft at Glastonbury ? #1260512
    Willow
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    Could these possibly be from uncompleted British Aerospace ATP twin turboprop airliners? I know the last few were never finished and ended up as fire trainers. These cockpits look as if they’ve never been painted, which would fit for these unflown aircraft, and they look about right for an ATP (A.K.A Jetstream 61 as BAe later called it, or ‘Dragmaster’ as everyone else called it!).

    Willow

    in reply to: Parham 1st July – Operation Bolero #1260524
    Willow
    Participant

    That’s great, sounds good to me. Thanks very much for the info.

    Cheers
    Willow

    in reply to: Spotted #1260549
    Willow
    Participant

    That would explain the Mustang connection.

    Many thanks
    Willow

    in reply to: Spotted #1260557
    Willow
    Participant

    Alas, not. (Ditto Y11F’s comment) It was (and still is) a silver Chipmunk with yellow markings (the one in my avatar). I was actually flying around Ipswich yesterday (when you had the squall going over) on my way to Great Oakley. I did look down to see if I could see any giant British Rail symbols on the ground, alas to no avail!

    Would you also possibly have been over Ipswich on the 6th April (this year!)at 10am?
    A silver/yellow Chipmunk was floating happily over heading East (also seems a long while ago now, and it’s only 3 months!).

    Thanks
    Willow

    P.S. The T6 I was refering to is in a USAF overall Yellow colour scheme with somthing like ‘TA-521’ under the cockpit. I’ve seen this a few times, often at the same or similar time as a P51 so I assumed it was local.

    in reply to: It's Container Time Again #1260559
    Willow
    Participant

    If it’s that dark, it must be a night fighter – P61?, F82?, Bf110? 😀

    I seem to remember that TFC’s P39, an aeroplane similar in era and size at least to the P40, made the transition from box to flying in less than 5 days (faster than most ‘Airfix’ kits!!) without too much difficulty so I can’t imagine that the new arrival would present any more/less of a problem to get flying before the show.

    Anyway, as it’s Wednesday, any news yet……

    Cheers
    Willow

    in reply to: Spotted #1298239
    Willow
    Participant

    No, you didn’t !!!

    Would that be in a locally based yellow T6 by any chance?

    And yes, it does seem a long while ago!!

    Chz

    Willow

    in reply to: Spotted #1299971
    Willow
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    Merlin Spitfire eastbound over Ipswich at 15:00 on Sunday last.
    Returned westbound at 15:12

    A bit far from Duxford, anybody any idea which one?

    Also a Yak50/52 in yellow/white at 10.30am cirlcing over Ipswich

    Cheers
    Willow

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