Actually it’s an interesting formation, with lead as the solo stinger out front and then the 4 ship diamond following in close trail. We’ve always flown this with the stinger in the back, but I like there setup better.
Most of this has to do with setting up the formation so that you can break out in an emergency and deconflict with the rest of the flight. Everyone needs a chunk of sky they can call their own if something goes bad.
Thanks Stieglitz, that’s exactly the sort of stuff I was looking for.
If anyone has a video or knows where I can buy one it would also be a big help. Even though these displays all look alike (yes Nick, just like the Blues), there is a big difference in designing formations for 5 instead of 4 (which is what we’ve been flying).
Hey, great to hear Southern Cross is finally ‘home’. Well done Steve, time to crack open that bottle of Spitfire in celebration…? š
That bottle of Spitfire resides in a place of honor on my bar, as Andy will be able to attest after he visits next month.
Geez, the lengths some people will go to get a ride in a Sea Fury š
Excellent stuff! I’ve got to buy a better camera.
OK, I probably just need to learn how to use the one I’ve got. š
Well done in getting the Sea Fury home, Steve.
Have you still got a mile-wide grin?
Let’s see…six months of T-6 flying while waiting on the restoration work, getting the new Sea Fury Experimental Type Rating program approved by the FAA (I’m the first), and getting the weather to cooperate. Times I never thought we’d get it finished.
Yea, I’m still grinning. The T-6 is great, the L-39 is a blast.
The Sea Fury is a Fighter!
The original owner, George Baker, painted the RAN scheme and she’s been like this ever sense. With so many Sea Furies getting painted as racers I rather like this look, although there is talk of painting her in FAA colors. Maybe next year.
Also, sorry for the quality of the photos, but the front canopy glass is 3″ thick, and the rest of the canopy is not exactly photo quality glass. Great for stopping bullets (and birds!), but lousy for taking photos.
As for Nelson’s latest project I’m afraid that I can’t say anything yet. As soon as it’s public I’ll let you know.
I’ll have to fire the old scanner up to properly contribute to this thread. Damn digital world we live in.
In the meantime, here’s a photo from a USO dance a few years back with my oldest daughter. Amazing what you can buy on ebay!
Cheers,
Steve
Just to clarify, I’m not a fan of jump seats in all warbirds. The jump seats added to Corsairs and P-40’s are questionable at best. If you had to get out on the ground the backseater has to navigate around the pilotās seat before being able to leave the aircraft. In a bailout situation itās iffy that the passenger could escape. The Sea Fury has a canopy that can be jettisoned to allow both occupants to bail out. If it didnāt I would have a jump seat, period. Of course bailing out of any warbird is a questionable proposition, but at least we try and leave as many options open as possible. The best you can hope for is sufficient altitude and control to allow you to roll inverted and depart the airplane.
My Sea Fury also has modern hydraulic brakes, as pneumatic brakes are just more trouble than they’re worth. As for the engine, there is nothing wrong with the Centaurus other than a shortage of parts to keep them running. If there were a stockpile of Bristol Centaurus engines around and 3350’s were rare you’d see many more Sea Furies with 5 bladed props!
Hereās hoping that I never have to find out just how difficult I suspect it really is to get out of a warbird when things go bad.
Steve
OK, sorry for the tone of my post Rob, but I took some personal offense to the comments about rich warbird owner toys and glorified sport planes.
IMHO, adding a jump seat or a Garmin GPS to a Mustang or Corsair does nothing to diminish its historical value. My first real warbird ride was in the jump seat of a Mustang. My wife probably wishes that it hadnāt been there, but that ride definitely influenced my desire to own a warbird. Also, with the level of restoration available I believe that none of these modifications are non-reversible.
Any modification done for safety of flight gets my 100% endorsement. A Seafire Mk. 47 may not have come with a big red button on the panel to feather the prop, but I was glad to see it there. Likewise, modern radios just work better. I love originality, and my friend Steve Craigās Wildcat is a good example of this. Itās a stunning authentic restoration, but most people will never see the panel and cockpit. Yes, it wins awards, and yes it does go to many shows. But when things go bad, such as a line of developing storms or a faltering engine, I want all the help that I can get.
Authenticity does tend to win āGrand Championā award. And you and I know that some owners will spend the moon just to win some award or trophy. My fear is that these airplanes tend to disappear from the airshow scene after winning, only to be seen on the rare occasion.
So, sorry about my tone, and letās put away the knives, OK?
Steve
All the best, Rob!
Steve & Allison
A data plate restoration of a Sterling. It would be damn expensive, but wouldn’t it be great.
I see James has gotten his appetite back after his L-39 ride. š
… I’m still watching as stock original birds are gutted to become glorified “sports planes” with second seats, modern systems and electronics, dual control systems, etc…
There are a number of non-museum outfits here in the US that deserve high praise for maintaining a crucial respect for the originality of certain choice machines, rather than perceiving any and everything as nothing more than a substantial collection of raw material for creating the next perverted centerpiece for some clueless rich man’s toy box…
OK, first my fantasy choice would be to borrow a certain Lanc from East Kirksby and get her flying. After a year tour in North America she would return to Duxford and fly every weekend and every other Wed if it’s not raining.
Next, I have to ask Rob Mears what planet heās living on, because he obviously doesn’t know anything about operating warbirds in the real world. Stock warbirds belong in museums, and I enjoy seeing them there. But why on earth should anyone fly a āstockā warbird across the country to attend an airshow (which is what everyone wants as I understand it) with old radios, old navigation equipment and antiquated gyro systems. Are you going to pay the extra fuel cost for these warbirds to carry around all the original armor plating, or help navigate with the original ADF instead of a modern GPS. Ever used an ADF near thunderstorms? Think they had the same problems with restricted airspace in 1945 that we have today?
Whatās wrong with adding a jump seat where all that old radio gear used to go, to share the experience with a spouse or photographer? It also comes in pretty handy when you have to take an overnight bag along for that airshow weekend. I guess North American Aviation wasnāt too concerned with luggage space, but you can be damn sure a guy who shells out over $1.5 million US for a P-51 wants to take an overnight bag along with him.
The bottom line is that restoration shops are in business to make a profit. If they donāt make a profit then they donāt tend to stay in business very long. Now, hereās a shocker for you Rob; they often build what their customers ask them to. Just because an owner decides not to put gun bays and ammo lockers in his Corsair does not make it a āclueless rich manās toyā or āglorified sport planeā. Get a clue yourself, Rob. Or better yet, step up and operate that original warbird yourself. Of course, no one will ever see it fly outside the pattern, but at least youāll be happy.
Steve
Yes Mark, Bob Lutz of GM and I believe a former Marine pilot. They filmed Bob flying his L-39 (didn’t quite have the Alpha Jet ready) and I think some of his car collection. I’ve never met him, but I know he has flown with some of the other Hoppers.
Ashley and Nelson have shown me some more of the photos from Montana, and I must say they are stunning. Of course nothing can be shown on the net, but I can’t wait to buy a calendar.
The Hoppers did a day of filming at the end of June for this special. Don’t know if I like the title, but what little footage I saw looked OK. The production people filmed our brief, then had cameras in the planes and on the ground. Also the day before they had filmed with Bob Lutz, who would definately qualify as a tycoon.
It was fun, but it was a very long day.