Thanks for posting the “I Love Me” photos James, and yes I did want a shot for my office wall.
There are a few airplanes floating around that are painted in the Egyptian desert camo. Lud Corraeo in Carson City has one, so it may have been his that was seen back west. The Red star and White 20 were the original insignia when this airplane was in the Soviet Air Force.
I’m in Breckenridge today, we’re preparing for a flight or two this afternoon. I’ll check in again later this week.
Cheers,
Steve
I love the mini-cam stuff, almost as good as a cockpit checkout. As for length, well 120 minutes is great. It’s just going to be airplane nuts who buy it anyway, and 120 minutes let’s me get out of doing the dishes…”I’ll help as soon as the Legends DVD is finished dear…” 🙂
One of my favorite series is the Roaring Glory warbird DVDs. I love the first half, where Steve Hinton does his walk around, then goes flying with cockpit cameras. Is there anything like that available for the Spit, Hurri, Lanc, etc.?
Steve
Thanks Setter, Sconnor, Snapper and all the others who contributed (even if your name didn’t begin with an S) to this legal primer on copyright law. Again, I don’t think anyone on this forum was trying to engage in intentional theft, but rather we are all probably guilty of the, “this is way cool, have you seen it” syndrome. Something along the lines of passing an interesting magazine article around the office.
I promise from now on that I will only blatantly copy and distribute Robbo’s photos. 😀
Steve
I am happy to post stuff on here, and am happy for it to be used for whatever, as I like this people and you lot. Anything I want to keep to myself, I do, and other stuff gets a watermark that will make it unattractive to copying.
This is the point I was trying to make. If you want to protect your copyright, then don’t let it enter the public domain in the first place. I could be just as upset as anyone when someone copyrights a photo of my airplane with me at the controls, but that’s what public domain is all about. When a photographer or videographer uses footage of my airplane at a “public” event (which you could argue applies to every airport in the world) then I have no rights to the photos or video? I have no problem with this if that’s the way the law reads, but don’t be critical when someone copies me on a photo or video clip, with no watermark or other means of identification, that has made its way around the internet a hundred thousand times.
This “Just wait till my lawyer get hold of you” stuff is pure nonsense. In the world of patents and intellectual property the owner is required to excercise due dilligance to protect the property from general distribution to the public. If this burden is not upheld the courts often find that the material is “public domain”. This forum has many photographers who know how to apply an ownership tag line or watermark, and I respect them for doing it. It makes it that much easier to know who to contact when I want to purchase a print.
Lastly, I’m not looking to pick a fight or play devil’s advocate, but this is far from a black and white issue.
I suppose this is an excellent time to have a discussion concerning copyright law. I think most of us understand how it applies to the non-commercial use of photos, and I have seen that most of the members of this forum are excellent at giving credit for a photographer’s work. Video clips are somewhat more vague, as I know the Alain de Cadenet clip has been circulating around the internet for months.
It might be beneficial if you could clarify for the forum members your ownership of these various video clips? Do you own a production company, or did you purchase the rights to these various videos? In this world of VCRs and camcorders I believe we could all benefit by a review of the rules, as I don’t believe anyone on this forum is out to intentionally steal from you or anyone else. It’s this whole question of non-commercial use that I believe has most of us confused.
I look forward to your response, sconnor.
Steve Patterson
I thought it was a hotel in Wales???
I believe VX281 is in the process of getting a 3350. When I talked to Dennis Sanders last year about finding a Mk 20 to get my Sea Fury type rating in he indicated their airplane would be down for some time, getting the new engine.
I don’t think a Centaurus Sea Fury has flown at Reno for several years.
Again, there’s nothing wrong with the Centaurus, but parts and mechanics are impossible to find, especially on this side of the Atlantic.
Some shots of “Southern Cross” showing the jump seat and the panel. You don’t want to be a very big guy and ride in the jump seat. 😉 Good thing none of us on this forum have to worry about that. 😮
Now where did I put that beer???
Ta.
It’s a Cessna A-37 Dragonfly, or ‘Tweet’ or ‘Tweetybird’ to it’s friends…
I was privileged to watch SR Patterson’s charm being worked on two Tweet drivers of the USAF, in a bar at Osh, only a week or so ago. They got an L-39 ride…
Cheers
I save my charm James for Hopper chicks and other female warbird groupies. The tweet drivers did get a ride, because Hack was so grateful that they “babysat” the blonde 17 year old that wouldn’t quit bugging him for a ride.
Thanks Mark for imparting wisdom on the lost. An A-37 is definately NOT a Tweet. Even though they look alike, an A-37 is like a Tweet on steroids. LOTS of steroids.
Good God, some US Furies with Centauruses…! (Centauri??)
I believe that the Sanders brothers Mk. 20 in California is getting a 3350 after having an engine failure with the Centaurus. I believe there is only one Sea Fury in the US running a Centaurus (Ellsworth Getchell, who rebuilds them in his living room).
Also, nice to see that John Bradshaw’s cockpit has been sorted out. Doesn’t quite look original, does it?
Mr Patterson Sir
Am I right In thinking that the Sea Fury with the Texas flag on it is the all white one in the Seafire Vid?
Nice Artwork 🙂
Yes Nick, they are the same airplane. Stewart Dawson, the owner, also flies the Spitfire, Hellcat and other fighters of the Lone Star Flight Museum in Galveston, Texas.
Of course, this is what Southern Cross has looked like for the last two months.
Ah, the joys of warbird ownership…
The Mk. 20 in Breckenridge is the former “Cottonmouth”, now owned by Todd Stewart of Key West, FL. I don’t remember serial numbers, besides that’s what warbird resource group is for. 🙂
As for me, I’m just waiting on a new generator for the plane. When the new oil tank was installed the old generator was too big. Also, the plane now has just one oil cooler, and looks much better I think. There is now a spraybar water tank located in the new starboard leading edge, nice for keeping oil temps down on hot days in the pattern.
The generator was supposed to be in this week, but now it looks like Mon. or Tues. Just another typical week in the wonderful world of warbird maintenance and repair.
Once the generator comes in Nelson and I will do a couple of test flights, then I’ll bring her home. Hopefully by next weekend.
And finally a couple of shots from last year showing the Mk. 20 on the ramp with “Southern Cross”