Have the shifting sands have covered it again until the spring?…. Or have the pikey’s ‘recovered’ it for them already:)
Thank you bazv, and in fact, all who contributed.
I have read the book, albeit a long time ago, and it now resides in the loft temporarily sorry to say. But all of the info received has been very useful.
JDK, I tracked down a copy of Ken Delve’s book, and it is on order:)
There is a comprehensive and authoritative (looking!) entry on the Brevet subject in Ken Delve’s ‘The Sourcebook of the RAF’. I suggest you track down a copy, as I’m not typing it all! 😀
Spoilsport:D
Originally Posted by bazv
I will have a look in Lewis B’s book tomorrow to check for any details.
Thanks!
Thanks for the replies all
I will go for the AG and shoulder flash for the 1943 period, It seems to be the most likely combination. After Jan 1944 it seems the ‘S’ or the ‘RO’ brevet would have been used.
According to this website: http://www.norfolk-airfields.co.uk/mouse.html
‘some of the old airfield buildings can be found on Salhouse Industrial estate’
Only one way to find out Richard, you know you are going to have to visit;)
At Hunsdon airfield memorial from 10:30 – 11:15, then back home to watch the BBC coverage from the Cenotaph that I shall record.
Kev35= For all nine of his operations he flew as the Wireless Operator rather than an Air Gunner.
This seems to be the way it was for many Wireless operators Kev, no distict brevet until one was designed.
exmpa=There was a post war “RO” brevet issued for a brief period.
But was this different from the wartime RO brevet?.
Mark12=WOp/AG.
Does this help?
Mark12, thanks:) There are one or two websites like that , hence the post, I just cannot find a definitive listing. I have many old photos of aircrew, some of crews sitting around the debrief table ect, and apart from the shoulder flash and a partial glimpse of a brevet with a possible AG showing is the only way I can tell who was who.
It is beginning to seem as if there was no set time for the introduction of a Wireless/Radio operator Brevet, some were AG’s with a shoulder flash, some wore the ‘S’ after Jan 1944 and some wore ‘the RO’.
This begs the question, did all Radio operators in heavy bombers double as an air gunner if one of the regular gunners was injured or killed?.
A collective ‘All the very best to you’ Bruce, on behalf of the lads of the Hunsdon airfield memorial.
And another poor soul sucked into the timeless void of forever walking old airfields:D
Welcome Gingie!
It was bloody fast
And I might add, a very handsome aircraft..it just looked right.
Problem: Teenagers with plenty of time on their hands and little motivation.
Answer: Conscript them into the armed forces for at least two years. after that the Fire, Ambulance or Police or Prison service for a further two years.
Job done….or so I would like to think.
Congrats to you:)
What an absolute shame it will not take place at Woburn any more, I do hope Sywell will be the alternative. The atmosphere there is just about right:)
just as much to blame on the ever-greedy insurers as on any legislative bodies!!
But some of us do like to take a swipe at the EU in any case!
when edward heath the ex prime minister who got us into the EU
Hold on Pink Lady, I will get around to you in a second.. firstly, Victor is right to a certain extent, we did not join the EU. We joined the Common Market, itself as far removed from the EU, as this thread has got from the demise of Pink Lady’s flying career:p
Secondly, The Common Market turned into the EEC, that in turn turned into the EU. but even my hero Winston Churchill had ideas about forming the Common market not long after the war, for that I cant forgive him;) Even he said once, and I quote;
“We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not combined. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European Statesmen address us in the words which were used of old -‘Shall I speak for thee to the King or the Lord of the Host?’ – – we should reply with the words of the Shunamite woman: ”Nay sir, for we dwell among our own people”.
So even he who advocated it knew of it’s possible limitations as early as that.
Now, about ‘Pink Lady’ and back on thread, How true is this statement of ‘grounded for good’ likely to be?, is this a plea to someone wealthy, like a French version of Richard Branson for financial support? I hope that this is the case and not a knee jerk.