Jules HorowitzB 17
Would like to be back in the clouds in the good old B17.
Haven’t been this site in quite awhile.
Jules HorowitzXABI
Your B17 Mother Country is an old B17F. Of course the G was better able to defend itself with the chin turret.
It’s been quite awhile since I visited. Regards to Moggy, if he is still around
Jules HorowitzDave
Still kicking. I just visited my cardiologist, he said that he didn’t know about my body, but my heart was good for another 15 years.
Jules HorowitzHi Jules,
Weren’t you also on WIX?
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/
Thanks
Jules
Jules Horowitzphysical problems
To all my friends,
I thought I’d update my physical situation to alleviate your concerns. I had a successful eye surgery Aug 25, I have to see the surgeon again on Oct 13. The long interval is to allow time for the swelling to subside. At this time I think I will still have to wear glasses with a few prisms, but much improved then before.
As mentioned above, the books that I received were finally donated to a univercity library, with much thanks, that is close by. However, I stupidly lifted a heavy weight of books and strained a muscle in my thigh, and with an arthritic hip it resulted in intense pain. My orthopedist said that it would take 6 weeks to heal. It’s now 6 weeks and I still have quite a bit of pain, I now walk with a walker or a cane.
I just cancelled my reunion trip because of my need for glasses due to the surgery. One good thing that resulted from this mess, when I had to get clearance for surgery and saw my cardiologist, the doc said “I don’t know about the rest of your body, but your heart is good for another 15 years”
I have another birthday in 2 weeks and am still counting.
Jules HorowitzHornchurch,
Sorry that I didn’t reply to your query sooner, I havn’t seen the Corgi model.
Stormbridge,
I’ll relate the incident where my crew and I got an assist from the guy in the sky.
I was on a mission with 5 other planes, it was a sneak attack to take out German generals who were having a secret conferance. We were to fly at 300 feet over the water off the west coast of Italy, way up north. When we were to reach a a point we were to go up to 4000 feet and drop bombs, the target wasn’t too far inland. About an hour before the target area one of my engines caught fire, the other planes quickly left me fearing that I would blow up. I went through all the proper procedures but couldn’t put out the fire. My crew asked if they should bail out, I told them that we were to low for a parachute to open , and even if they got to the water they wern’t likely to be picked up, we were too far north. My suggestion to them was to do some praying. Of course I aborted the mission and headed back to base, I had about 3 hours to go, after some time the fire just burned itself out. When I landed at home base I saw that the horizontal stabilizer was quite charred. Ten guys praying must have reached the big guy, he helped us get home. I didn’t get credit for a mission.
Jules HorowitzAll my good friends
It’s really heartwarming to read all your messages, and good thoughts.
Re: WW2— I just did my bit as thousands of others did. I loved flying especially the B17,
I got sort of a break because other then once, I never saw enemy fighters because I was busy keeping my plane in tight formation, my crew got credit for 6 enemy shot down. What scared me the most was seeing the heavy flak when we approached the target area.
Early this Oct I’m going to my group reunion at Dayton, Ohio. I think it will be the last one because there aren’t too many dinasaurs left that can travel, I’ll make the effort.
Recently a friend passed away who was an UK B17 crewman and was also a POW. His lady friend asked if I wanted his memorabilia since his family weren’t interested. I have about 60 books, dvd’s etc weighing over 50 pounds, I am now looking for a home or a museum for this stuff since parts of this treasure trove is irreplaceable.
To all of you–I’m still hanging in with all the aches and pains that go with the territory. Hopefully by the end of Aug I’ll get rid of my Strabisimus (double vision)
Hornchurch–You keep on fighting, hopefully the Good Lord will give you a helping hand. Another time I’ll tell you of a mission I was on where the Big Boy definately gave my crew and I a great assist.
Jules HorowitzB17 pilot
You people are just unbelievable with your offers to pay my way, to try to get me on a flight etc. I must refuse your kind offers because I’m scheduled for eye surgery the last week of August, I have to keep going back to the surgeon several times prior to the event. It’s not paticularly dangerous, it’s to correct double vision which would eliminate too many prisms that are ground into my glasses. About 10 years ago I helped clean up a decrepit B17, when it was in pristene condition the owner invited me to go on a 2 hour flight. He had me sit in the copilots seat and I had about 15 minutes stick time, I was out of this world.
Now that I have your attention I’ll tell you of an experience that I had 5 years ago—–
I monitor Armyairforces.com, sometimes I’m able to answer a question asked by 2nd and 3rd geraration relatives. Summer of 5 yrs ago, a man from Italy was looking for an airman who bombed his city (Reggio Emilia) on Jan 5,1943, I among others bombed and destroyed a German Aircraft factory in the city. Over the next several months we became fast friends, which continues to this day. About Dec he asked if I would like to come to Italy as a guest of their Historical Society, they were going to celebrate the anniversary of the bombing. The Pres of the country was going to be present and they would like me to come also. I told him that Jan was too cold for me, he then asked about June, I decided to go for 1 week, all expenses paid. I had a fantastic experience, I won the whole war by myself. I have avatar on the AAF site, he made about 200 copies and I kept autographing them. My host had a lot of clout, he was a retired CEO of a water and gas utility that had 300K+ accounts
Jules HorowitzMr Horowitz,
Sir, I have not been on the forum as long as your thread has been around, so Im glad it came back to the front page as it has given me a chance to read through it several times in the last 24 hours.
Before I go any further, I wish to express my sincere thanks for everything you and friends went through in order to bring an end to the horrific conflict that you found yourselves in.
I do have one question, and I hope from the bottom of my heart that I do not cause you any offence by it, if I do, then please say so and I will remove this following part:
With everything you and your friends sacrificed, how do you feel knowing that we still havent learned from those mistakes and we are still continuing to fight wars across the world?
Bex
Bex.
No offence taken. Sadly it’s true. I don’t recall the expression exactly but it’s something like this —-those that don’t read history are destined to repeat it. Another thought, if all the politicians and leaders were put into an arena and told to fight it out, I think that wars might be eliminated
Jules HorowitzYes, now you’re in tip top health, would it be possible for you to come over to Legends at Duxford next year, there’s a chance of 2 B-17’s, and at least 1 Lancaster, you’ll enjoy the American Aircraft Museum and you’ll probably be treated like royalty, I’m sure quite a few of us on here would be pleased to meet you, go on, treat yourself to a trip to the UK.
Have you ever been over here incidentally.
Pete,
Yes, I’ve been to the UK 6-7 times and enjoyed each trip. My last trip was several years ago. I visited an aircraft museum ,I believe it was south of the river, can’t remember the name. I wish I could visit again but my past surgery and infection took a lot out of me, I’m glad that I’m still around and kicking.
Jules Horowitzb17
Any further questions, fire away.
Jules Horowitzb17
Hi Y’all
Re looping the B17: see comment #25 on this site, I described an incident that happened to a buddy.
In a million years I’d never try a loop, although the plane was a dream to fly. In combat it was able to take much punishment and get back to base. In my buddy’s case it was an accident, he was lucky to survive.
Jules HorowitzI am so very glad you are still kicking Jules mate!:D 😉
LoL, And I guess you might be just as glad aswell hey!:rolleyes:
Just a quicky Jule’s, what other type’s of aircraft have you flown in your life time ?:confused:
And can you remember the biggest scare you ever had during your flying, In training or combat.
I may have asked that before, sorry if I have Jules, I don’t suffer from Alz, but the Multiple Sclerosis give me plenty of Cognetive problem just the same.
You sound in good spirit’s Jules mate, which is so magic and so damn good to still see at your end of the big 100 numbers.
Thank’s in advance Jules, Ciao for now :dev2:
My worst scare was when the plane directly in front of me exploded. 1/2 second later we went through the debris and smoke
I started with a J3 Piper Cub, Stearman PT 17 (?), Vultee BT13, Cessna AT 10. B17 transition, then a crew with about 120 hours in U.S. before going to N.Africa 450 combat hours
Aside from my creaking bones and slow pace I’m fine, since I got through my abdominable aneurism surgery last August, and the staph infection that took 4 1/2 moths to clear up. I guess my luck is still holding. In a million years I never thought I’d get this far.
Jules HorowitzHi Guys,
I don’t get to this site too often, just want to say hello. Any questions re: the wartime B17, I still don’t have Alzheimers,
I made a comment on page 1 nusual antics of a B17
Jules HorowitzI don’t know how to post a picture. If someone who knows how, go to armyairforces.com . My avatar has a good picture of me next to my WW2 bomber
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