Dave,
I flew Stearman PT 17 or 19 at Primary school when I was an aviation cadet in USAF. I don’t recall hearing of any fatal accidents, but there were many ground loops and other minor damage. It was a great plane
Oscar,
I definately remember the people lining up for scraps and the remainder of our coffee.
Also,most tents had a gofer, a young boy who lived with us. We would cut down a uniform so that the lad had a warm outfit, we also fed the youngster.
After the war in my home, there were times when food had to be discarded for one reason or another, my wife would never discard food in my presence.
My guess is that the lipsticks were used for trading.
Andy,
I was in Salina about a week or ten days.I signed for a new F model. The time was spent wringing out the plane. My best recollection was that we checked the air speed indicator,compass, variation, deviation etc.
We spent all the time flying checking many items. I don’t remember going into the city.
B17 man,
I don’t know what a C-1 formation stick is. I’ve never heard of it.
Chris,
While I was in the 99th the logo was as the above picture. Later, the logo changed, it was a large diamond,I think it was yellow with a large Y inserted, the 4 sqdns were numbered 1 to 4 roman numbers.
There is a club (CONDORS) that fly radio controlled models, One of the people built a B17 1/12th scale, he can make the plane have smoke trailing an engine, retractable landing gear. The owner said that it took him 3 years to build, at a cost of $10,000,
This past or next July (I forget, senior moment) it will be in the Smithsonion Museum,
He said that his next project is to build a B24
Hi Oscar,
As I mentioned previously I flew several different planes during my tour.
The new plane that I got in Salina, KS was #393 (last 3 #), we named her Lucky Lady. After calibrating the instruments we left and flew the southern route to Rabat, Morocco where I waited to be assigned to a bomb goup.
I flew 393 a number of times midway through my tour, it was transferred to the 97th BG. I believe that it crashed later.
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Hi Stephen,
I prefered the G model because of the nose turret, more armament,otherwise there was no dfference. When fully loaded, takeoff was more hairy, once in the air, it handled beautifuly. During my 50 mission tour I flew in about 7-9 different planes, nothing major about the handling except for the condition of the engines. I spent most of my tour in Tunis July ’43-Dec’43, Foggia, Dec to Feb. We lived in tents, 4 officers per tent (my tent 4 pilots), enlisted, usually the same crew 6 per tent. The food wasn;t great but we survived, on missions we had K rations which we couldn’t eat because they were frozen. At breakfast you kept coffee to a minimum to eliminate having to urinate at altitude. On off days we went to town sometimes, or trips if jeeps were available.
After returning to US, I was an instructor for B17 crews preparing to go overseas. I had put in for different schools and after 6 months I went through and completed Navigation school. Shortly after I was discharged and remained in reserve until I had 20 years.
While at Nav school at Hondo,Tx I would go to Kelly Fld and fly AT-6 in order to get my 4 hours per month so that i would get flying pay, great plane.
I’d be glad to answer any questions as long as my memory works.
I monitor a great website in US titled ARMY AIR FORCES.
B 17 /with flak
I don’t have the date of the photo
I think that this was taken over the target, Weiner Neustadt. Note the open bomb bay doors on distant plane, Also notice the probable flak dents in the nearby wing.
I flew to WN in Nov 2 1943 from Tunis 1007/906=1913 miles, we were aloft close to 14 hours. We staged to land in Sicily for an overnight, get enough fuel to return to base next AM. I slept under the bombay, in the AM the engines were preflighted, I was about 25 feet distant and never heard a sound, I guess that I was out cold.
Steve- I don’t know if I’ll get to Lakeland, but I await the Collings B17 coming to Boca Raton and Pompano Beach the latter part of Feb 2005.
Moggy- My group was called “Diamondbacks”. later the logo was enhanced by having a large yellow diamond with a “Y” enclosed, and sqdn stripes beneath.
Robbo-The only time any thing was done to the skin of the aircraft was to repair flak and bullet holes.
Incidentally, I flew Queenie several times. It was one of the planes that bombed Rome the first time, on July 19th 1943. Much publiciy because of religious places, 3 well known newsmen were aboard 3 planes. At breifing we were told if any aircraft had a malfunction, not to drop bombs. A number of planes didn’t drop, no churches were damaged.
I have a few pictures from WW 2. but I don’t know how to get them on this site. I can send them via e-mail.
To the best of my knowledge there are about 10-12 B17’s and 1 B24 Liberator) that are still flying. The Collings Foundation makes a yearly circuit around the U.S. with the 2 planes, they can take 7 passengers at a time for 30 minute flights at a cost of $400 per. When they come to Florida, People go through the planes for a very small fee. I sit at the exit door of the B17, and as people leave the plane, I ask if they have any questions that I might be able to answer, I have a great time .
Steve,
Unfortunately I don’t qualify. I flew 50 sorties in B-17’s over Europe. I was based in Tunis, N.Africa and Foggia, Italy from July to Feb 1943-44, and I don’t live close by.Good luck with your meeting
B17
I flew B17’s in WW2, if anyone wants to see some more pics taken during WW2, send me your e-mail
I’m new to this site and I don’t know how to put pictures on.
Jules
me 262
On only one combat mission did I see a me 262, it scared the life out of me. Fortunately I was near the end of my tour.
b17
Andy
I was in Italy from Dec to Feb 1943-44, my field was Tortarella, a few miles from Foggia. We had Wimpy Wellingtons on our base, they flew at night, they took quite a beating. I’m not familiar with the town that you mentioned, it is over 60 years and my memory is a bit vague
There were many bases within a 10 mile radius of Foggia, we bombed the area several times from N.Africa. The network of airfields was most important because when we got there it enabled B17’s and B24’s to go all over Europe. My group went to Berlin, about 10 times to Ploesti, also a shuttle raid to Russia, among other distant targets.
Italian Harvard
During my stay in Italy in 1944 I was always cold, and my greatest concern was to finish my missions and go back stateside. However I did get to spend about a week in Capri (rest camp)
About a year ago June I met an Italian man, on a website, he was looking for an airman who bombed his city (Reggio Emilia) Jan 8,1944. Checking my diary, I told him that I bombed Reggio on that date. During the next several months we became quite friendly. In Dec he asked if I would like to come to Italy as a guest of their Historical Sociaty to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the bombing (we destroyed a German Aircraft facility). I told him that Jan was too cold, he then asked if I would like to come in June. I readily agreed and went and had an unbelievable once in a lifetime experience. The people treated me as if I had won the war by myself. I believe that the Italian people are the warmest people on this earth.
I wrote an account of the 1 week trip. If you send me an e-mail I will send it to you. my address is— [email]jhor9@comcast.net[/email]