spitfiremancan you really get a non flying replica for under 10k?
Gavin
They do come up ( in various states of disorder ) I’ve seen the odd reasonable replica under 10k. It depends on how much time and money you can throw at it to make a looker.
Wyvernfan
Originally Posted by spitfireman
A new one on wheels 30k-31k
…. never knew they cost that much.. I can see the appeal though.!
My second Spitfire replica has a wing folding system to enable easy transport and one man set up etc for shows. Its 40k already.
Moggy C With a share in a flying replica (all be it a scale one) at just £24,000 the ground based one looks a tad pricey to me.
Moggy
How many own it? 4 = 96k
17k becomes more appealing
J Boyle I’m surprised that there is a large enough market for there to be (approximate) set prices for previously owned replicas.
Is there a pecking order of desirability…by maker or past history (ex-film, etc)?
Having seen a former BoB film replica at the Flixton Museum…it has a few warps in it…I’d agree that some are probably getting on in years
Spitfires are at the top of the list undoubtedly and many have been built over the years. Some are better than others and care is needed when buying an ex-film prop as the film makers usually shoot the crap out of them and repair them cosmetically (like mine!) that will cost dearly (and did) at a later date.
Billy Boggins For that money you could get a PPL and fly REAL aeroplanes, ones that actually go in the sky. AND you would have enough to get a share in a light aeroplane through the PFA (LAA) and do some real flying.
Your girlfriend would love you because you would be a real pilot and you could take her places and not sit in your garage painting a 1:1 Airfix model
Don’t clog up your garage, live a bit
Cannot totally disagree.
To coin a saying ” we need a bigger boat! “
It will not fit in a double garage, you would have to knock the back wall down (garage) to get the tail in the kitchen which means you do not have to learn how to use the washing machine or cook, you simply go down the laundrette and eat out, sorted.
cheers
Baz
spitfiremanThanks chaps, your knowledge is overwhelming! I feel a little silly now. This replica is offered at £17,000 with a full repaint – I thought this was good value but from your responses thisis too expensive……………can you really get a non flying replica for under 10k?
My girlfriend informs me that If our tandem double garge ever has a Spitfire in it then it’s curtains for our relationship………………………………………………. can anyone advise how a washing machine works and how to make a good sunday lunch?????
Thanks again gentleman, your advice is priceless
Regards
Gavin
With a full repaint, 17k is about the going rate for a refurb.
Baz
spitfiremanHi gents,
I wonder if I could pick your very knowledgable brains. I more than likely am to take reciept of this fantastic spitfire replica. I have limited space already and am worried that in the not too distant future all my available space will have to be used for other things.
Is this re-sellable? do you think there is much demand for owning your very own Spit. The aircraft is made of wood and fibre glass, the wings are seperate and seperated from the main fuse – it is a mk 9 which will be restored to get rid of this horrid paint scheme – How much should something like this fetch? what would you guys pay? I don’t want to pay a fortune then be stuck with it if I had to re-sell.
Thanks for your time
Doesn’t look bad.
I have a refurbished MkIX with full respray on wheels etc 18k
A new one on wheels 30k-31k
Yours depending on condition secondhand usually 8-12k
cheers Baz
spitfiremanI think that we all have to understand that most of the gereral public know very little about how the planes systems function and why they are loaded in certain ways for balance, trim etc etc.
On this board we all know that little more as it is our interest or job in some cases so we are in a better position to understand more what is been said to us.
As stated before it seems to me that this could have been handled much better by the representatives of the airline and maybe explained in a way in which the passengers would not be worried something may occur.
We have to remember that most do not read forums to explain why accidents occur but they read the press and watch the news which gives a different impression. Lets face it I guess the tragic loss of the Air France plane is still fresh in the minds of most.
I am not saying they should have boycotted the flight bu maybe with the way it was descibed to them it may have been a panic reaction??
You beat me to the post, but you are spot on!
spitfiremanI’m not a pilot or specialist in loading, but hell I know that I get seated in certain parts of the plane with certain load factors for the purpose of balance and trim. I don’t expect to know where though, I trust the judgement of those trained to make these decisions.
I’m not disagreeing with you, it’s not the sort of holiday or destination I would go to.
I’ve been moved around an aeroplane for load and trim, fully understood and had no problem with it.
But this is slightly different:
“The pilot came out to speak to us and told us it was perfectly safe.
“When someone asked if the hold door could open when we were in the air at 20,000ft, he couldn’t understand and walked away.”
That got passenger alarm bells ringing.
To me at least, this just sounds like a complete communication problem. It is perfectly understandale for someone who is uninformed to be frightened when confronted about a technical fault – exacerbated in this case by the crew unable to explain satisfactorily if the cargo door would be secure. The crew could have said that the fault was investigated by an authorised engineer and has been secured for flight. I am sure that would put a few minds at rest, I am sure.
This is what I am trying to say.
And I’d bet 99% of these passengers, if confronted with a layman at their own place of work and that layman said what they were doing was wrong or dangerous, they would tell that layman to ******* off and mind his own business (or similar) and carry on with the job.
Yes, agreed but in their eyes, they won’t kill 300 people if they make a mistake.
Look, I know nothing about ships, if I was crossing the Atlantic at night and the Captain said on the ships speakers …we’ve hit an iceberg but don’t worry, we’re perfectly safe as we are unsinkable……I would have trouble sleeping (unless it was in the lifeboat).
You and all the people on this forum know a great deal about aviation but just for a moment you put yourselves in their shoes and know ‘nufink’.
What made 70 people so scared they wouldn’t get on that aeroplane.
spitfiremanWhen you read it, it sounds not like a passenger induced problem but a communication problem between airline and passengers. You have to bear in mind they are your customers, if you told me that the airliner I was about to board was broken but if you all sit up the back end it will be OK, I would say either fix it or replace it. We all know airliners run with these various unserviceabilities
fine, but when you involve passengers to help run these problems it will (and did) backfire.
What it boils down to is ignorance and fear, a powerful combination, although its possible the airline could have handled it better.
A quote from a passenger:
“The pilot came out to speak to us and told us it was perfectly safe.
“When someone asked if the hold door could open when we were in the air at 20,000ft, he couldn’t understand and walked away.”
Now, whilst this question may be a little ridiculous, the fear behind it is genuine, and the pilot should do his/her best to address it.
Your right, the airline could have handled it better.
I hope their baggage was unloaded and they were left to find their own way home.
You’ve lost the plot.
These people have paid good money for a safe service, at no point on their ticket does it say anything about flying in a broken aeroplane. They are not to know how safe or not it is, why should they?
Can’t better that comment. As usual the great British air passenger leaves brains and common sense in the car park.
Not so in this case infact quite the opposite, the passengers have done their own risk assessment and said no!
I don’t blame them
spitfiremanThe reason why Met didn’t always get it right was because various Plonkers would park their Landrovers outside our only window.
Resmoroh
That would be me then, they were my Landrovers.
Can’t remember blocking your door though.
spitfiremanLove these photos.
I enhanced it a bit.
Looks well robbed to be honest, no fuel tank and armour, cowling gone, canopy gone, 3 blade prop broken (wooden?), spinner gone, port cannon gone………….if it was propped up on bricks, it could be on a birmingham council estate…..no sky band rear fuselage, tail wheel gone…………
MK12??
Baz
I was meaning MK12 the man not MkXII the mark.
spitfiremanMounting points,structural modifications/strong points,storage space(for system),weight and CofG,positioning of system for safe deployment taking into account all of above….may not be that easy on a light a/c with a sliding canopy !
regards baz
I’m not an engineer or a designer, more of a dreamer who often talks tosh, however, if you throw enough money (and beer) at a problem, engineers often come up with solutions. Ballistic parachutes are the way forward.
cheers Baz
spitfiremanWhat sparked my interest in flying was slightly more ‘leftfield’:
Jonathan Livingstone Seagull
I’m not ashamed either😀
unputdownable!
spitfiremanAh…….fat alberts
spitfiremanAs a fan of the Kent Spitfire I am extremely disappointed that it will not be appearing and Kent’s Biggin Hill Air Show this weekend.
I have tried to contact Peter Monk to find out why it is not appearing but I have had no response.
It seems strange that organisers are ignoring this aircraft that is already based onsite and are instead paying for other Spitfires to be flown in from other parts of the country. Has the airshow not been inpacted by the credit crunch?
The airshow website lists 3 Spitfires as attending – ML407, MH434 and a T9 (I am assuming that this is the ARCo Dutch painted T9, but that is just a guess). Surely with this being the 65 anniversary of the D-Day landings a Spitfire painted in invasion stripes to commemorate the landings would be more appropriate than a Dutch painted aircraft.
Is there anyone here from Biggin Hill that can comment on this?
AT
3 spitfires!, down in Cornwall we’re lucky to see 1 a year! I wouldn’t care if it was pink with blue spots…………
spitfiremanLove these photos.
I enhanced it a bit.
Looks well robbed to be honest, no fuel tank and armour, cowling gone, canopy gone, 3 blade prop broken (wooden?), spinner gone, port cannon gone………….if it was propped up on bricks, it could be on a birmingham council estate…..no sky band rear fuselage, tail wheel gone…………
MK12??
Baz
spitfiremanRoborough airfield Plymouth not taken over by military until 1942,
257 squadron operated Gladiators and later Hurricanes from 39 to 41.
236 squadron dispersed out of RAF St Eval during the BOB
Baz
spitfiremanHi Baz
I have never sat in a Tutor but I have heard that the canopy jettison system is perhaps not ideal,and perhaps not as good as the Bulldog system.
As you say…now that ballistic rescue systems have matured a bit perhaps they could be considered for the tutor replacement,but i would guess they really have to be an integral part of an a/c design,would it would be possible to retrofit to an a/c structure ?? also the tutor is not overblessed in power/weight ratio anyway.cheers baz
Don’t see why not.
I was looking at this system fitted to a cirrus and another on a (ultralight?) Gorilla. It didn’t look that heavy and you can redeem some weight by not having individual chutes etc.
cheers baz
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