I was offered the mission board in the nineties for nothing as long as any damage was put right. At the time I was a volunteer at an East Anglian museum so I passed the offer on to them, they spent alot of time saying they would like it but never actually got around to actioning anything in the end it went to an American collector for a museum in the states.
My love for Lightnings started young so my first kit was the old Airfix 1/72nd F1A Lightning. It came in silver plastic so it remained unpainted with the transfers. Like many of its real life cousins it survives today in the form of a cockpit section! I also had a Lightning which I hang from the ceiling that I had modified with two orande LED’s in the back! Looked great at night with the lights out. 😀
Ok, anybody want to help fill in the gaps with the fate’s and current locations of the missing Swiss Vampire T55’s? Here’s my starter list :
U1207 – Crashed 09/09/71 – Volketswil
U1208 – ( HB-RVF as U1208 ) – Fliegermuseum, Altenrhein
U1209 – Crashed 22/09/71 – Eigergletscher
U1211 – Clin d’Ailes Museum, Payerne ( static )
U1213 – ( NX935HW ) – Privately owned, USA
U1214 – ( G-DHVV as XE897 ) – Source Classic Jet Flight, Hurn – For Sale
U1215 – ( G-HELV as XJ771 ) – Air Atlantique Historic Flight, Coventry
U1216 – ( 209 ) – Royal Jordanian Historic Flight
U1219 – ( G-DHWW as XG775 ) – Source Classic Jet Flight, Hurn – For Sale
U1221 – ( SE-DXV as 105 ) – Aeronautical Society of Ljungbyhed
U1222 – ( N23105 as WB188 ) – Ten Air, Anoka County
U1225 – ( ZK-RVM as NZ5712 ) – Brett Emeny, New Plymouth ( NZ )
U1226 – ( N——- ) – Privately owned, USA
U1228 – ( HB-RVJ as U1228 ) – Privately owned, Switzerland – For Sale
U1229 – ( F-AZGU as U1229 ) – Privately owned, France
U1230 – ( G-DHZZ as WZ589 ) – Source Classic Jet Flight, Hurn – For Sale
U1234 – Crashed Biggin Hill.
U1201 / 31 / 2 were retired early by the Swiss so I doubt these still fly but are they static somewhere, what happened to the others?
Where was Janie 😉
Thanks again Tony, you’ve come up trumps. 😀
That is exactly what I was looking for. Know I have the pleasure of hunting the book down through old book shops until – ‘eureka’ I’ve got it!
It’s great going through old stuff you’ve packed away and finding little gems you forgot you had – know if I start at the first box in my cupboard!
1. Sea Fury
2. Sea Hawk
3. Spitfire
4. P39
5. ?
Excellent, thanks Tony. Know I have a title to start searching for, plus the correct spelling of Cleife. 😮
I guess if I can obtain a copy of the book then all the info I need will be in it.
Thanks Janie, Mark12, lauriebe and Tony for your input. Is there no question this forum can’t answer. 🙂
Actually I remember a question about Janie and a disappearing act that was never answered 😉
Thanks for that guys. I think the pictures in the earlier thread are a little early for this particular company as I think he flew 61-67, but this is all new to me.
Damn, Steve beat me to it – doh!
First one definatly not a Hunter. Canberra?
Hello Firebird,
I know there was talk of the OFMC putting there F4 in the air but I think thats all it was. The fact that they got the aircraft in the first place when scrappies were being ordered to reposses cockpit sections they had sold as viloating the SALT treaty might suggest that you would wont to keep quiet about it! I doubt the facillities at Duxford would have been upto scratch for the operation of such a beast.
I’m with you on the Lightning info. 🙂
1). EE Lightning
2). Hawker Hunter
3). Dehavilland Vampire
4). Dehavilland Sea Vixen
5). Bae TSR2
Know that would be a sight 😀
It is not really a speed issue ( although it probably comes into it ) as the Sea Vixen is supersonic. It all boils down to the complex nature of the systems used on the aircraft. The Vulcan and Buccaneer are considered ‘safe’ designs and as such as long as an operater can prove it can maintain them and the design authourity gives its approval and backing and you can afford it, the door starts to open. The Lightning on the other hand is a different matter. I believe the CAA see the aircraft as ‘not safe’ for operation – even for the military, the design having several basic flaws. The main one being the positioning of the engines and the potential for fuel fires. My favourite aircraft, so that annoys me especially as alot has been done to reduce the risk. But I admit if I had to sign the paperwork to take responsibility for letting the aircraft fly in this country I would have to think long and hard about it.
The SA CAA permit alow’s them to operate in South Africa only and only over non populated area’s. I think the LPG guys are just clutching at straws, having had the chance this year to talk to a couple of the guys who sit on the board that make the decisions about what can fly in this country I would say the chances are pretty much zero – unfortunatly.