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  • in reply to: 5 Minutes of Flyboys #1313269
    Andy in Beds
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    agree with Dazdaman …..looks great – provided employment for a certain number of aviation related enterprises and will probably thrill the Star Wars generation … I can’t believe the amount of petty carping going on here …some production company has spent millions producing an aviation-related film…its not a documentary ferchrissakes …go and enjoy..

    Why should I enjoy rubbish?
    You wouldn’t expect me to enjoy a bad game of football or a bad play or a bad book or bad restaurant meal so why this?
    Your attitude seems to be that we should be thankful that someone’s been kind enough to make us an aviation film. Give me one reason why I should pay out hard earned money to indulge in something sub-standard?
    Andy

    in reply to: Bader – The TV Programme #1314126
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    If true, yes! Not one to hide my light under a bushel (Ha!) I just came across a letter I had from the German Ambassador in London a while back that came with a personal award to me for my work in advancing Anglo/German reconciliation and in assisting relatives of dead aircrew in the repatriation of war dead. Must be quite unusual to make an award like that to such an anorak! Andy Saunders

    Andy,
    I don’t think anyone mentioned you by name.
    The stories (and they may be just that) were mentioned in relation to stuff on Great War battlefields.
    There certainly were some dodgy characters digging stuff out there years ago.
    And certainly some ‘interesting’ stuff recovered.

    Andy

    in reply to: Bader – The TV Programme #1314376
    Andy in Beds
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    And of course that’s your domain, where the greater unwashed are concerned. šŸ˜€

    I’m not prejudiced, I hold everyone in an equally low regard… šŸ™‚ šŸ˜‰ šŸ™‚

    in reply to: Bader – The TV Programme #1314457
    Andy in Beds
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    In my own former industry I have on occasion seen this ‘sniffy’ attitude toward ‘Engineers’, from fresh, recently qualified and chartered graduates…who in reality, when put to the test, couldn’t engineer themselves out of a paper bag.

    They learn, but it usually takes about a further ten years. šŸ˜‰

    Mark

    Couldn’t agree more.
    There are two types of engineer here (where I work–Govt’ QUANGO).
    One’s that have come from academia and those of us that pulled ourselves up by our boot straps.
    The academic sort look down their noses at me because I come from a very commercial background.
    Then again because of my background I can afford to work here part time and they can’t–perhaps it’s that which really irritates them.

    I would have thought there was a place for both sorts but they apparently don’t.

    Andy

    in reply to: Bader – The TV Programme #1314645
    Andy in Beds
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    As in ‘X’ the Greek for unkown, and ‘Spert or Spurt’ A drip under pressure???

    My version is more earthy but fundamentally the same… šŸ™‚ šŸ™‚

    in reply to: Bader – The TV Programme #1314655
    Andy in Beds
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    I’m just waiting for someone to claim he’s an ‘expert’.

    in reply to: 5 Minutes of Flyboys #1315166
    Andy in Beds
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    What does one think of ‘Blackadder Goes Forth’, then…?

    I feel much the same about it actually.
    Apart from the last one where the clever writers got themselves off the hook somewhat and some of the one liners in it amuse me to a certain extent.

    Blackadder has been quoted in several serious pieces about Great War tactics as to how the myth of bad generalship/tactics etc is perpetuated. Even in a BBC Timewatch programme too on Douglas Haig I think.
    Just goes to show that many believe what they’re told even if it’s in a comedy show.

    A.

    in reply to: 5 Minutes of Flyboys #1316662
    Andy in Beds
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    “Flyboys”…which I suspect is meant to be a bit of escapist fun…

    Mr Boyle,
    I think that’s what worries me.
    I’m not absolutley sure that ‘escapist fun’ should be applied to The Great War.
    I do accept that ‘Flyboys’ won’t be the first case of this but I don’t like it.

    I do seriously think that there’s a massive difference in the way the Great War is viewed on either side of the Atlantic.

    One can even sense this in quite respected journals about that conflict. Try contrasting the styles of ‘Over The Front’ with the British ‘Cross and Cockade’ journals to see my point.
    Both I hasten to add excellent publications.

    Andy

    in reply to: Bader – The TV Programme #1317742
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    There have been many cases of world war remains being dug by unscrupulous treasure hunters who then just dump the bones. Digging an aircraft wreck is obviously a much bigger task, but undoubtedly there are some out there who would do such a terrrible thing.

    Sadly not uncommon on the Great War battlefields.
    I watched ‘Trench Detectives’ last night and they had a very restrained approach and they also mentioned the digging of bodies and the dumping of remains.

    I thought the French had introduced a law to prevent battlefield remains being robbed out and taken away.
    A.

    in reply to: 5 Minutes of Flyboys #1317769
    Andy in Beds
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    Mr Boyle
    Yes, you’re correct I did rather denigrate the losses that the American forces suffered during The Great War and for that I apologise.
    The actual figures are as follows:-

    Killed in action = 53,513.
    Killed or died by other causes = 63,195. (Influenza probably played a big part here).
    Wounded in action = 204,002.

    Everyone a son, a husband or a brother.

    Surely then, a better memorial to them is needed than comic book nonsense.

    In fact you do in the Americas have a better memorial to them.
    In Kansas City you have this:-

    http://www.libertymemorialmuseum.org/

    I visited there last year and the ongoing refurbishment project is turning the museum into a World class exhibit.

    Later.
    Andy

    in reply to: Bader – The TV Programme #1319136
    Andy in Beds
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    Deja-vu or is it me???

    Mr Saunders and Mr Sarkar won’t know any of this (or bl**dy want to) but ultimately and for all time, any serious discussion on the life and times of D.R.S. Bader will arrive at this new low.

    Why, oh why??
    Andy

    in reply to: Bader – The TV Programme #1319147
    Andy in Beds
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    Quite right Andy.

    I have studied it intently and have an ‘ology’ in it.

    Mark

    Utopiology, Laidbackology or Relaxology???

    in reply to: 5 Minutes of Flyboys #1319316
    Andy in Beds
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    It doesn’t have to be good to be enjoyable.
    See the film , have a good laugh, then try to get your money back from your mate- that should be an even bigger laugh. Then tell us all about it. šŸ™‚

    Yes, he’s coming here for our mutual friend’s annual aviation lecture at Old Warden on November 4th.
    That’s a shameless plug for
    ‘The first Annual Aviation Lecture’ to be held at The Shuttleworth Collection on Saturday 4th November 2006.
    Guest speaker Mr Andy Sephton, followed by a buffet lunch and then in the afternoon a guided tour of the collection and a behind the scenes look at the old place. Cost £35.00 or £30.00 for SVAS members.
    INTERESTED???–post here.

    in reply to: Bader – The TV Programme #1319337
    Andy in Beds
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    Just back from my constitutional bike ride and have been batting a few ideas about on my travels to while away an hour or so.
    Mark

    A relaxed bike ride on an Autumnal afternoon whilst contemplating aviation history.
    What a utopian lifestyle you lead PA.

    Best A.

    in reply to: Bader – The TV Programme #1319475
    Andy in Beds
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    Most jump ships travel faster than the skydiver will be falling on jump run.

    If the jolt can break a skydivers training shoe lace and the nylon chin strap of a camera helmet then it’s quite a jolt (camera helmets have double nylon straps so are tougher than a normal helmet). On the deployment of a skydivers reserve the skydiver is at sub terminal velocity because you have to remember that the skydiver WANTS to get his/her reserve out as quickly as possible. A fighter pilot in a battle would’t deploy immediately as I am sure he didn’t want to be under canopy with all those bullets and fighters zooming around so at what minimum altitude would a Spitfire pilot deploy? If he fell away it’s very possible that he was at terminal velocity when he went for the pull a terminal opening of a round parachute would have seriously spanked him. If the skydiver, who’s lace and helmet strap broke at sub-terminal velocity then a terminal opening could quite possibly have ripped off the tin leg do you not think. I have done a terminal opening of a square reserve and the bruises were so bad that you could make out the clear shape of the leg strap buckle on my thigh for a few days afterwards. My square parachute has a slider which is to retard the opening and the round parachutes don’t have such a feature. If the terminal square opening spanked me, a round opening must have been seriously painful.

    Ali

    Thanks Ali,
    I think had the leg still been in situ in the aeroplane, then if it had impacted in the way the experts seem to think then it would have taken more than a bit of local German ingenuity to have repaired it.

    I’ve never made a parachute jump myself but an old mate of mine now sadly deceased had made a number of descents on WW2 parachutes and told stories about the damage done to the more delicate parts of man which made my eyes water!!!

    In closing, several people have commented on this thread (and a few others) being unseemly. I couldn’t disagree more, I actually think we’re finally getting some serious debate going and a few myths are being debunked.
    If anyone thinks this sort of stuff isn’t good, lets go back to ‘the will it be at Legends’ rubbish.
    Andy

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