Let me guess…… the Camp America formation team…. a very short act.

You seem irritable this fine morning.
Lack of sleep???

Jonesist!

Actually wrong Mr Leigh.
I reckon the weather will be good to excellent.

I sharn’t be there but I think you’ll get good weather.
Andy

I looked up AG’s reference and noticed that a Zep had attacked Braintree killing 4 people. As my nearest town for 30 years I can’t remember knowing anything about this despite having been to the local museum, the problem with googling about zeppelins is that you are inevitably referred to the Led variety, so I’ve given up, anyone know much about the Braintree attack, the Great War forum doesn’t seem to know much.

Pete,
I looked it up in that treasury of all things ‘Zepp raiding’ ‘The Air Defence of Britain 1914-1918’ by Christopher Cole and E.F. Cheeseman (Putnams 1984) and it says in there it was a raid by Zeppelin L14 (Strasser) on the night of March 31st/April 1st 1916.

L14 crossed the coast at Sea Palling in Norfolk and flew south dropping bombs on Sudbury, Braintree and Brentwood between 21.05 hrs and 23.40 hrs.
The Zepp then turned north and dropped 14 bombs on Thameshaven before re-crossing the coast near Aldeburgh at 02.50 hrs.
The Captain claimed in his report to have bombed Tower Bridge!!!–You find much exageration in Zeppelin combat reports.

Hope this helps.
Andy

I think that’s a bit unfair on the IWM if you include Lambeth which has a series of excellent exhibitions and items referring to W.W.I, and as a proportion of the displays there, is probably not significantly smaller if it is smaller (it all depends on measures, bias etc) than that devoted to W.W.II.

A measure of achievement could be mildly displeasing all of the people – it shows ballance, because (all together now) you can’t please all of the people all of the time.

Yes James, I accept that IWM Lambeth is probably the best museum on The Great War, it’s a shame therefore that they don’t take the Harry Tate there and display it in some sort of environment where it has context, instead of a meaningless space filler in Air/Space or whatever it’s called.
In fact if the Biff and the RE8 and the CMB could be re-located, it’d save me the need to ever visit Duxford again.

Andy

There’s no such attitude, as evidenced by the £26 million they’re dropping on a new flagship exhibition building dedicated to the story of British aviation. There will always be a focus upon the big projects during the planning, lead-in, establishment, and follow-up periods, but the focus has already switched from AAM to AirSpace.

Which is not to say that the story of the US(A)AF in Britain should be ignored.

But doesn’t stop them virtually ignoring the events of 1914-18.

Interesting point!

Upwards yes, but the nose could have ‘chimneyed’ like the famous footage of the much later Hindenburg disaster. Unless they crashed nose first, nose girders seemed to survive and could point upwards as the greater heat at the centre destroyed the aft supporting structure.

Of course, that’s a generalisation which could be very wrong, but footage seems to prove the theory.

Just a thought…

James,
the nose sat on the ground rather in the manner of the yolk of a fried egg–looking complete (of course the outer fabric had burned away)–it looked like it must have impacted almost vertically backwards.
Only surmise though.
Andy.

PS. Mark 12–that’ll be a shame but I get your point.

Adrian,
Very interesting stuff and thanks for posting.
In the porch of Therberton Church there are some ali girders from L-48 on display. I think there also used to be a Maxim Gun but that was moved some years ago.
The crew at the time of the shooting down were also burried in the church yard but they were re-interred at Cannock Chase. There is still a small memorial in the place where they were burried.
Cheers
Andy

Don’t you realise it’s the income from the enclosures that enables there to be such a large number of expensive aircraft displayed?

Take away the enclosures and you’ll have a great view of a smaller airshow.

And really. Expensive? I’ve just looked at (and decided against) a Pet Shop Boys concert in Thetford forest. A couple of hours of a less than current group £26. Makes all day at Duxford surrounded by stirring aircraft look a positive bargain.

No problem with people voting with their feet, but calling the organisers ‘greedy’ is totally out of order.

Moggy

Well Moggy, last time I looked I was still entitled to my opinion and you to yours.
I think despite the strictures of the present Government, free speech is still allowed.

You Moggy, like myself can afford to pay for an enclosure should we chose to do so. It’s the principle of paying twice that stops me.
Greed, that’s a debatable point.
Is Flying Legends run as a charitable event or a business??

As far as The Petshop Boys’ go, I’m glad to see they’ve still got a large camp following… 😉

Andy