An Old Mate…
An old mate of mine (who’s still around) was an RAF gliding instructor.
During the operations around Arnhem in 1944 (Market-Garden) because there were a shortage of army glider pilots so he was detailed to take a Horsa in.
Not on the initial landing on the Sunday morning but one of the later ones.
Anyway on the way to the LZ the Halifax tug was shot down.
He said it was the quickest cast-off in history.
The glider landed safely just within an area where allied ground troops were situated but he’s pretty sure all onboard the Hallibag were killed.
I’m currently trying to get him to put his experiences down on paper.
Before this he was with Coastal Command on Sunderlands and his RAF career ended when he was badly injured when a Warwick he was onboard crashed taking off in the Azores.
He recovered eventually and returned home to lead a ‘normal life’.
Where do we get such men as these?
Horsa…
I can just see the letter to my wife.
” Dear Mrs Jones
we’ve now been able to recover your late husbands remains from the large pile of kindling found at the edge of the airfield.
Hopefully he was well insured.
Do you have an open fire by any chance?”
😉 😉 😉 😉
Horsa……
I imagine one gets that sinking feeling!!…..:( 🙁 🙁
Horsa.
Funnily enough I was just sitting here thinking a flight in the Horsa might be quite fun.
😀 😀 😀
Canberra
Arm Waiver
Yea I think there was a pointy nosed Canberra there early on. I can’t remember what is now though.
Do you remember a glass case with the model of a WW2 RAF airfield showing glider types and their tow aircraft?
Another favourite of mine.
I’d love to see that floor plan.
Andy
🙂 🙂 🙂
Sydney Camm Gallery.
Arm Waiver,
do you rember the middle part of the aircraft hall in those day was called The Sydney Camm gallery?
It contained a selection of Hawker types including a Cygnet, Hart, Hart trainer, Typhoon and Tempest. Was this gallery so named because of financial support from Hawker Siddeley?
Anyone else like the museum back then?
Andy
🙂 🙂 🙂
Loss of Direction..
Hi all
I have somewhere an old RAF yearbook dating from my childhood showing the then proposed RAF museum.
It had one of those architects’ illustrations showing happy well-dressed people enjoying the museum. It also went onto describe the proposed layout that would help to illustrate the development of the RAF from its earliest origins through to modern times.
When it opened (or shortly after) my parents took me for the day and I confess I was enthralled.
The whole museum was ‘a piece’. One started off in the aircraft hall bottom left hand side and worked round in a clockwise manner.
I think the first exhibits were a Bleriot and the Caudron. The aircraft got more modern until at the end were jets etc.
Then one went upstairs to the galleries which had those wonderful scenes with those posed figures (probably revolutionary for a museum in the seventies) things like the RFC workshop and the training lecture, I think on the Lewis gun and the Rolls Royce armoured car as one came downstairs and started to work back to the entrance.
All this was interspersed with models in glass cases of which the WW1 trench scene with models suspended above kept my attention for ages and various smaller exhibits relevant to the time period.
Since that time I’ve watched the slow (in my opinion) decline of this concept until now there just seems to be a random mish-mash of types pushed in where-ever there is a space.
I’m still deeply saddened that those exhibition galleries are all gone with the exception of the VC gallery I think which now sits meaninglessly on it’s own.
Maybe the jokers that run the place should be sent a copy of my RAF yearbook article. It might give them a clue or two.
Also sadly last time I was there (December) the place was crawling with a horrible rabble—namely today’s youth who weren’t in the least bit interested in anything that I could see.
I did speak to a volunteer guide who informed me of two things, 1) The majority of the people visiting didn’t give a sh*t about the museum (his words)—they were only there because it was free and slightly more entertaining than B&Q and b) the management of the museum were idiots.
Two other things have changed since the museum opened. In those days no flash photography was the rule and the place used to have uniformed attendants.
I remember mother put her foot over one of those curbs on that first visit onto the white painted concrete and was politely but firmly advised not to by an attendant.
As he walked away my dad said, “well that’s the RAF all over that is!”
I wonder what that old boy would have said if he’d seen the state of the place in December.
Sorry about ranting but it upsets me.
All the best
Andy
PS Does anyone else remember those model scenes in cases or those dummy displays?
I remember another one showed an RAF guy evading capture in France with a glass case showing escape equipment adjacent to it.
Fox Moths
Chris (Turbo)
I’d like to se any pictures you take very much
Thanks in advance
Andy:) 🙂 🙂 🙂
Happy Birthday.
I’ll second that.
Happy Birthday Young Man.
Not only are you Lowestoft’s most famous resident you do good work–your expertise on 609 Sqn is outstanding.
Have a good one
Andy Jones
Spitfire Mk.I
Daz
I understand from the ‘flying Spitfires thread’ that this aircraft is currently in pieces somewhere. Do you know where and who currently owns it?
Andy
Spitfire Mk.I
Hi All
whatever happened to the Spitfire Mk.I which I think was owned at one point by Patrick Lindsay?
I saw it fly once at Old Warden (mid seventies?) and I think I saw it at Booker in the early nineties.
Where is it now and what’s it’s status.
Thanks as always.
Andy. :confused: :confused:
Debris..
Looks like there’s a large bit of Debris off at the top right also.
Any guesses on that?
Perhaps that liberty ship which sank carrying the entire months wages for the 8th and 9th USAAF in May 1944.
Have you got map references Whitley/
I’m gone-it’s late.
Kansas.
Steve
I sent you an E-mail today (re your visit).
Kansas city is in Missouri.
Or are you in Kansas proper?
If you are, please bring over some Cozy Burgers.
Ice Tea?
You put Milk and Sugar in Tea here.
Are you sure you’re looking forward to this trip?
Andy
😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
Curry and Naan Bread.
Steve
Because India was once part of the British Empire many Asian people migrated here in the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s.
Many of them went into the restaurant business and now almost every town in the country and many villages have at least one Indian restaurant. They produce a number of Indian style dishes but in the main Curry which is spicy sauce poured over and mixed in with either meat (usually Lamb) or Chicken or sea food or even just vegetables.
Curry sauce comes in a variety of types, which varies in strength from mild to very hot.
(Hot enough to make ones teeth bleed!)
Nan bread is unleavened bread that is eaten with curry—usually used to mop up excess sauce.
Rice is an optional extra along with things like Tarka Dhal—lentils in a garlic sauce and various spicy vegetables.
Indian food has overtaken many more traditional foods as the most popular UK food.
The expression’ Should we go for a curry?’ is therefore an invitation to an Indian Restaurant.
This is except where my wife is from where the expression ‘fancy a ruby?’ means the same thing.
But enough of rhyming slang.
Confused yet?—you will be.
Andy
Afterburner
Well you learn something everyday.
I kinda thought sub sonic flight wouldn’t have warranted one.
Mig 19 yes–oh well.
Steve will know what six pints of Bombadier feels like!!
Andy:D 😀 😀 😀 😀