Which Nieuport 28..?
Where, when?
I know it’s Yorkshire but 76 Squadron at Holme On Spalding Moor is the one that interests me.
My Father’s school friend Sgt. Derek Bell was a rear gunner with them and sadly was killed on his tenth operation (Hamburg) on the night of 23rd/24th July 1943.
A.
I know it’s Yorkshire but 76 Squadron at Holme On Spalding Moor is the one that interests me.
My Father’s school friend Sgt. Derek Bell was a rear gunner with them and sadly was killed on his tenth operation (Hamburg) on the night of 23rd/24th July 1943.
A.
Matt.
Yes, Major C.J. Burke is a charcter worth recounting too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Burke_(British_Army_officer)
You’ll note he was killed back with his infantry regiment at Arras in 1917.
This I think illustrates how many officers were only ‘attached’ to the RFC in those days.
Andy
Matt.
Yes, Major C.J. Burke is a charcter worth recounting too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Burke_(British_Army_officer)
You’ll note he was killed back with his infantry regiment at Arras in 1917.
This I think illustrates how many officers were only ‘attached’ to the RFC in those days.
Andy
Matt/Steve.
What a great day and a set of pictures.
Good stuff–I love the Tornado tail scheme.
I also think it’s worth remembering that 2 Lt. William Rhodes-Moorhouse was awarded the Victoria Cross after an operation to bomb railway installations at Kortrijk, Belgium, on 26 April 1915, while flying a BE2C of No.2 Squadron.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barnard_Rhodes-Moorhouse
Cheers
Andy.
Matt/Steve.
What a great day and a set of pictures.
Good stuff–I love the Tornado tail scheme.
I also think it’s worth remembering that 2 Lt. William Rhodes-Moorhouse was awarded the Victoria Cross after an operation to bomb railway installations at Kortrijk, Belgium, on 26 April 1915, while flying a BE2C of No.2 Squadron.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barnard_Rhodes-Moorhouse
Cheers
Andy.
My view remains the same. Why insult the men of the 332nd Fighter Group (or for that matter the intelligence of today’s young audience) with comic book heroics..?
if you need to enhance what those blokes really did with false heroics–climbing into the cramped cockpit of a P-51 and sitting on something as comfortable as a parachute pack, surrounded by high octane petrol, taking off from a PSP runway and trying to keep the damned overloaded thing straight, then flying for the best part of four hours over sea and the Alps, then fighting a prepared enemy at 25,000 feet, always watching fuel, ammunition (and your back–plus your leader’s back), plus trying to keep the enemy away from the bombers, then doing a bit of ground strafing to finish off the ammo, then flying home for another four hours across the mountains and sea again (always watching the fuel gauge) and finally landing back on the same PSP strip–assuming the aeroplane isn’t damaged in some way–and all with the prospect of doing it again tomorrow–and the next day–and the day after that–and so and so forth–then you’re telling the story incorrectly, and it doesn’t matter who the audience is.
If however you’re trying to make war seem glamorous or glorious and/or exciting, either for the purpose of turning a buck or pushing a political point then I suppose a situation may arise where enhancing the truth may become necessary.
All I can say on that is that I consider myself lucky that I’ve never been in a war. In my experience of meeting, talking and listening to those who have, they think those of us who’ve lived a life in peace are indeed lucky too.
All I seek is the best Allied cemetery to take them to. Doesn’t have to be the biggest, it could contain somebody notable (Den Brotherton is already a possibility)
Mogs.
Sorry to be a pedant but it’s Den Brotheridge, and Ranville Churchyard is the one I’d suggest.
If you’re not moved there–you’re either dead yourself of made of asbestos.
Andy.
The EU has no interest in democracy…all of its employees and beneficiaries are very happy on the gravy train ;):rolleyes:
Couldn’t agree more.
However, if we wait a while, I think you might see the people of all these countries taking control of democracy.
The EU has no interest in democracy…all of its employees and beneficiaries are very happy on the gravy train ;):rolleyes:
Couldn’t agree more.
However, if we wait a while, I think you might see the people of all these countries taking control of democracy.
According to some UK friends…they do that already. 🙂 😀
John.
Well, I think we always need to differentiate between the actual people of a country and the government of a country.
If you were to believe the Daily Mail for instance, one would get the impression that the French were a totally homogenous Europhile race who see no further than the Euro, are happy to be ruled by Brussels and are all virulently anti-British.
My experience is somewhat different (having been there once or twice). I find many of my French friends are as anti EU as I am. They envy our resistance to the Euro and would have the Franc back tomorrow.
They also envied the fact our government (if one could call Cameron and his bunch of public school, upper class ****ers a government) did at one point hint at a referendum on the EU, as they would like one too. Many middle aged, middle income French people feel (as many here do too) that no one is listening or cares about them–even though they work, pay their taxes and generally abide by the law.
I can’t see this new bloke being any different to the last bloke, who I most often heard of being sneeringly referred to as ‘our little Napoleon’.
I suspect the real danger of collapse will be in Greece (currently looking very unstable again) or Spain, Italy or Portugal.
Bring it on I say, then after a lot of pain (for ordinary working class folk in every country), common sense may once again then get the upper hand and political experiments like the EU and the Euro might well be consigned to the dustbin of history.
Andy.
According to some UK friends…they do that already. 🙂 😀
John.
Well, I think we always need to differentiate between the actual people of a country and the government of a country.
If you were to believe the Daily Mail for instance, one would get the impression that the French were a totally homogenous Europhile race who see no further than the Euro, are happy to be ruled by Brussels and are all virulently anti-British.
My experience is somewhat different (having been there once or twice). I find many of my French friends are as anti EU as I am. They envy our resistance to the Euro and would have the Franc back tomorrow.
They also envied the fact our government (if one could call Cameron and his bunch of public school, upper class ****ers a government) did at one point hint at a referendum on the EU, as they would like one too. Many middle aged, middle income French people feel (as many here do too) that no one is listening or cares about them–even though they work, pay their taxes and generally abide by the law.
I can’t see this new bloke being any different to the last bloke, who I most often heard of being sneeringly referred to as ‘our little Napoleon’.
I suspect the real danger of collapse will be in Greece (currently looking very unstable again) or Spain, Italy or Portugal.
Bring it on I say, then after a lot of pain (for ordinary working class folk in every country), common sense may once again then get the upper hand and political experiments like the EU and the Euro might well be consigned to the dustbin of history.
Andy.
What a marvellous ethos. Just had a look at the website, I never realised they went back so long and had achieved so many projects!
Yes the Memorial Flight Association is a wonderful operation–staffed by some great people.
It’s amazing isn’t it that not everything good in aviation is on this small pellet of land, but can actually be ‘foreign’.
Travel abroad my friends, it’s amazing what’s out there
There’s a nice piece of vid of the Sopwith taking off here…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X_Kgobf1tg
Andy