It does my heart good to see how UK aviation historians and their supporters keep the history of the 8th AF alive.
Visiting veterans always enjoy their time in the UK and and the quality of the facility restoration speaks for itself.
It does my heart good too, and I’m British.
Well done to all concerned and thanks for posting.
Andy
Very good–thanks for posting.
I enjoyed that.
Andy
Very nice indeed.
A.
Not a decision taken lightly but it’s like a swamp out there.
And it’s still raining here.
A.
Probably my mind playing tricks but it looks like the painter has a sense of humour.
He has, and no, your mind isn’t playing tricks.
Looking forward to the show at LFA myself.
A.
That’s half scale???
No, full scale.
Hi.
Here’s a few more of the Strutter.
The project has taken ten years to come to fruition and looks wonderful.
With all the high quality work going on around the World at present in relation to Great War aviation, it’s a great time to be interested and involved.
Like Melv says (above) it’s a pity a few more here can’t get off the ‘Spitfire thing’ and start getting into real aeroplanes.



All pictures with permission of The Memorial Flight Association.
Andy
‘Winged Victory’ by Victor Yeates.
Yeates flew Sopwith Camels with 46 Sqn, on the Western Front and you won’t find a better book on flying in The Great War–in fact you’ll be hard pushed to find a better book full stop–in my ‘onest guv.
It’s written in the form of a novel but is clearly autobiographical, many of the characters in the book are based on real people in the squadron at that time. Yeates was dying from what was known as ‘Flying Sickness D’ when he wrote the book–we know it as Tuberculosis.
It has a slightly bitter tone (which is understandable) but is blessedly
far removed from false heroics of the type the film industry (in particular) seem so enamoured with.
Buy it–read it–marvel at what they did..!
Andy
‘Winged Victory’ by Victor Yeates.
Yeates flew Sopwith Camels with 46 Sqn, on the Western Front and you won’t find a better book on flying in The Great War–in fact you’ll be hard pushed to find a better book full stop–in my ‘onest guv.
It’s written in the form of a novel but is clearly autobiographical, many of the characters in the book are based on real people in the squadron at that time. Yeates was dying from what was known as ‘Flying Sickness D’ when he wrote the book–we know it as Tuberculosis.
It has a slightly bitter tone (which is understandable) but is blessedly
far removed from false heroics of the type the film industry (in particular) seem so enamoured with.
Buy it–read it–marvel at what they did..!
Andy
Bruce.
Peter Jackson has also got a shed full of money.
His operation has pretty much grown up because of that, and he sort of started from scratch, but he’s assembled a team down there and uses a Worldwide network to get the work done, but of course you knew that.
I do sometimes wonder what might happen to that collection in years to come–after all, everyone is mortal.
However, the centre of gravity in Great War aviation has shifted away from places like Old Warden and Old Rhinebeck to New Zealand.
I used to visit the shed at Salisbury hall and quietly wish that a BE2 would fly.
All I nee d now is a ticket to NZ.
Sadly the project ground to a halt after his death, although how he hoped to convince the CAA to grant him a Permit to Fly the beast was always something of a mystery!
I’m interested now.
Was that because of the non-standard construction (welded fuselage, ENGINE etc)?
Actually I thought the 1 1/2 Strutter at Hendon was a replica.
My point was it is somewhat special to be able to follow the developments of a single manufacturer in one museum.
I think it’s rather wonderful.
Has anyone ever wondered (for instance) why the Dolphin is noticeably different to the Pup, Camel and Triplane..?
I’d love to see a TVAL Snipe added to the line-up.
The BE2F (or parts of it) is flying in NZ. In my opinion that’s a much better outcome than laying in a damp shed in Hertfordshire.
I think we all need to accept, that the axis of early aviation preservation (and flying) has shifted to the southern hemisphere.
Probably not a bad thing in my opinion.
I wonder what type of engine they were planning on fitting to it?
Richard
I had a feeling that it was an Alvis Leonides–I could be wrong on that though.
As a project, it had a long, long way to go before they had an aeroplane.
The way I see it is this:-
Sopwith Tabloid
Sopwith 1 1/2 Struter
Sopwith Pup
Sopwith Triplane
Sopwith Camel
Sopwith Dolphin
and a Snipe.
The RAFM could offer this line up.
No bad thing if you ask me.
The Snipe is my second favourite aeroplane of all.
Two squadrons operated out of RAF Henlow, Bedfordshire in the very early 1920’s (23 & 43 Sqns.) and for that reason I’d love to see a Snipe at OW. Can’t see it ever happening though.
Andy.
No, it’s just stored there, it’s got nothing to do with the collection.
I think the original backers of the project–which was to re-enact the flight over Mt. Everest, ran out of money.
To be honest, it isn’t either a great exhibit or a very good example of what a real Wallace would look like.
Being of welded construction.
A.