This is a very interesting conumdrum.
I went to stay with my mother over Easter, who was trying to get me to take all my late fathers artifacts back with me. It was difficult, this stuff still sits in the same drawers that I used to go through and marvel at when I was a kid and it was hard to disturb it. Instead of being hidden away in a drawer, shouldn’t my grandfathers Sam Browne belt, paybook and Royal Scots dress cap be in a museum to remind us that he fought at the Somme, or do I bring it back here and stash it in the loft, along with all the other bits and pieces that I’ve accumulated over the years.
Eventually, I brought back the SS helmet and dads medals, but I couldn’t take anything else, it didn’t seem right.
So what do I do with this stuff, even as I sit at the computer, the SS helmet sits next to me on the table and on the desk are a Hawker Hunter mirror, a Corsair gun periscope and an Africa Corps ring, all courtesy of my old man.
In my current perilous financial state, I have been tempted to put some of this stuff on E-Bay, but my missus won’t hear of it , bless her.
So I have this large collection of uniforms, flags, insignia, weapons, a/c parts etc etc that no-one can see, and I think it’s a waste.
So what do I do with it.
The only item that I have ever donated to a museum was a turret gunsight for the Elvington Halifax project, though whether this was ever installed on the a/c, I don’t know, as you say, maybe it is still in a box somewhere accumulating dust, no-one from Elvington has ever told me what happened to it.
My old man always wanted my son to have his medals, but he’s a cool university dude and it doesn’t really mean much to him, and that isn’t a critism, it’s the way it is, he wasn’t brought up sitting on my knee with tales of how best to destroy a Tiger tank.
So what will happen to this stuff when I’m gone, is it better to get rid now on E-bay and get something out of it, or keep it all hidden away in the loft, I don’t know the answer.
Anyone fancy a massive Hornby Dublo trainset!!!
love the f-111, havn’t seen one in 23years!!!!!!!
Sorry to go off thread a bit, but the only time I remember seeing an Aussie F-111 was at RIAT, Fairford, 92 or 93, he did a great performance, choreographed to some whacky song about kangaroos by Rolf Harris, ‘Bouncy, bouncy, bouncy………etc’ finishing off with a low turn and burn, most impressive.
Is this the only time that an Aussie F-111 has performed in the UK, I seem to remember that it was on the way back from the States following a refurb programme.
As for the USAF F-111’s, I think that their last performance was at Mildenhall about the same time, when the Lakenheath unit did a mixed formation flyby with the new F-15E’s.
Have the Aussie F-111’s got different engines as I can never remember seeing a USAF example doing the flamer, that was always left to the SR-71.
Many thanks, like you say working condition is better than rotting away, its a happy medium.
As for a billionaire buying a shed load of these lovely old classics, it would have to be a small shed, there arent many left 😉Please come along on the 8th you wont be dissapointed
Oh and here’s a couple of shots for you from my album’s, as you never witnessed them flying,
Binbrook’s last,last Lightning show, boy did it rain !
But it was worth the wet ‘trollies’I love this shot it sums the day up
Andy B
Wow, got anymore of these, mine are all on slides and I am not able to show them on here.
What got me was that, refering to the second picture, me and my pal were standing next to the bloke on the stepladder and I can clearly make out Micks face, his first and last airshow!! I think that I’m the one to the right of him near the brolly.
What a show, any pics of that awesome take off.
Nice picture DazDaMan, I expect that the great and much missed Ray was flying that sequence.
I think that CGI will eventually take us to the point where no-one can tell the difference, the Mossie and Spitfire images previously mentioned and made by the Japanese geek are pretty realistic.
I look back on the Dire Straights MTV video of many years ago, which I believe was one of the first attempts at CGI to represent people, it’s very crude by current standards and compare it to what can be done now. I’m quite convinced that soon we will be able to reproduce exact images of long dead actors/actresses, a chilling thought, this will make a/c scenes a ‘piece of cake’ to produce.
Sorry, distracted, some nutter in a light a/c has decided to view the village at the same level as the church tower, it’s ok, we both survived.
Interesting, I hadn’t spotted the previous threads on this before. So it’s been touted round BBC North, Midlands and 3 months later BBC Look East, what next, BBC Cymru in August. I have to say that the comments from both her and the reporter was that it was a restoration to fly, having read the previous threads I find it all a bit strange, is she trying to out do Caroline Grace, ah well, back to trying to fit the Mossie wings on the fuselage in my single garage, well they are plywood after all, best quality from TP, now, how do I get it through the gate for the air test from the cricket field, worried about the trees at the end though, they are a bit close.
This reminds me of the good old days in the 60’s when we would catch the train from Nottingham to Lincoln St Marks, always sitting in the front of the DMU in case we had to wait for an A4 on the Newark crossing. Then we would catch the ‘Lincolnshire Road Car’ green double decker from outside the station that would take us straight to the BOB airshow at Waddington.
When the airshow finished, we wouldn’t rush back as my old man always insisted that we caught the ‘Tamworth Mail’ from St Marks, which didn’t leave till 7:55 and always had an interesting loco on the front and was non stop back to Nottingham.
Those were the days.
Ollie, could be a good idea to download a 1:25000 map of the area from Multimap.
My favourite aerial sequence has to be the opening attack by the ‘Bf-109’s’ at the beginning of the BOB film, that should feature in the ‘how low can you go’ thread.
Next, the scene in ‘Piece of Cake’ where Chris is being chased along the coast and does a hair raising climb and roll over the top of what looks like Beachy Head.
Some of the flying in Tora Tora Tora is pretty amazing as well, especially the airfield attacks.
Also, the take off sequence at the beginning of Catch 22 is pretty cool, along with the scene of Yossarian panicking in the nose of the B-25, never figured out whether this was a genuine air to air shot, it looks like it.
Note, non of this is CGI.
Spitfire in a garage
I was just watching the lunchtime edition of BBC Look East when an article appeared about a woman who was restoring a Spitfire in her garage.
The feature was quite vague as usual, however the womans name is Susan Lipscombe-Ridley and she said she was restoring the a/c to flying condition to raise funds for her son’s medical condition. I don’t know where it was or the mark and number of Spitfire, but it looked quite interesting.
Can anyone elaborate on this.
I think that because of it’s uniqueness, power and grace, the Mosquito was most people’s favourite performer at airshows, it certainly was mine.
I can’t remember exactly the circumstances in which I learnt of the accident, I’d heard that a WW2 a/c had crashed at an airshow, but had no knowledge of what it was, or the fate of the aircrew.
I recall seeing the footage on the news and seeing the unmistakeable shape of the Mossie go in, I realised then what it was and that the crew could not have survived, it hurt more than any other accident that I have witnessed on the telly, ( the Firefly was the worst as I was only a few hundred yards away from where it happened ).
I was at FL on the saturday when RR299 was together with the P-38 for what I didn’t realise was to be the last time, making my video footage very poignant indeed.
I didn’t realise that RR299 was about to be donated to the the BBMF, I knew that they wanted to get their hands on a Mossie, but always assumed at the time, that they had something stashed away somewhere that was in reasonable condition.
Somewhere I have some video footage of it flying with the DH88 Comet, but I thought that I filmed this at Mildenhall rather than OW.
What has happened to the Goodyear airship, I haven’t heard anything about it or seen it for a while.
A few years ago Stansted Airport did a promotion campaign and offered to take representatives from local businesses for a flight in it. We applied, but never even got a reply!
Where did you get this info? I would like to read up on this, quite interesting!
I have a book by Alfred Price called ‘Spitfire, The complete fighting history’ which has a chapter in it by AVM John Nicholls on this subject, who was in charge of the development squadron at the time.
It features a very interesting photo of the Lightning and Spitfire together on the tarmac at Binbrook prior to their sortie.
The North Luffenham Bloodhound on the gate was sold at the same time as the Meteor NF.14 . This was when the Army took over the main functions of the camp. The missile was acquired by Imperial Aviation Group and moved to Sandtoft. Within the camp were two Bloodhounds – one on the flat transport
stand and another which was a little more complete . I will endeavor to have an airborne look at them in the next couple of days .
You beat me to it, I had a sniff round the perimeters of North Luffenham on my way home yesterday evening and found nothing, so I did wonder.
Is she? you should have mentioned it….. 😉
Bog off, she never rated the EAP anyway, she always preferred flying the SU-27, and barrell rolls are much easier in a wheel chair at Mach 2 apparently.
JDK
I used to go up to Duxford for most of the filming and I seem to recall that the weather was pretty good, did it get bad during the Binbrook sequences.
Interesting, I remember a scintillating display by this a/c at the Red Arrows anniversary air display during the late 80’s at Scampton, stuffed at the back of a hangar at Wharton no doubt.
Oops just read the other threads but was interrupted mid reply by me mother on the phone, after all she is 90 today.