C’mon you lot, lets have some answers.
I remember going into the Beverley, climbing up the steps and over the rudimentary barrier into the tailboom passenger compartment, at the point where I was near the back, there seemed to be a definate shift in the centre of gravity, it started creaking, so I got out quickly, and I’m still only a skinny git.
I have a full set of colour slides taken of the aircraft that day which may have been 1975 or 76, it was my first visit to Southend and it’s pier, which by coincidence burnt down the next day, I’m sure I threw my fag ends into the sea though.
I remember the Sea Fury inside was dripping oil everywhere and the Casa 111 was full of birds nests, similarly the Lincoln was covered in bird droppings, I’ve probably got the programme somewhere amongst my multitude of stuff.
Ahh – the Raleigh “Blue Streak” … mine was a Raleigh “Redwing” … my current Kestrel 200Sci weighs half what the Redwing did!
http://www.kestrel-usa.com/support/docs/images/road-200sci.jpg
A bit off-thread, sorry, I just got carried away … I love the smell of Carbon Fibre!
I still have the remains of the Blue Streak in my garage, including a frame that I found in a skip in Bishop’s Stortford, all I have to do is put it back together and cycle back to Tollerton with my camcorder.
Yes it does weigh a ton.
I was at the 1967 Kings Cup Air Race at Tollerton, at the west end of the runway on my brothers Raliegh Blue Streak racing bike, must have been around the time that it was smashed to pieces in a collision with a Lamberetta, I landed in a hedge and survived intact. For some reason I didn’t have my camera with me that day, which was unusual for me, I must have been out on a bike ride and come across the air race by chance, nice to see pictures of the P-51 after all this time. I always thought that Sheila Scott won that event.
I saw the Blue Angels at Hucknall in 1973, they were flying low over the M1, which must have caused a few near accidents, I remember that the Red Arrows were pretty sensational that day as well, unfortunately the brand new Zenit-E, which I bought the day before the event decided to jam so I was unable to take any pictures, it must have been the built in Russian factor.
I have previously published some 60’s airshow shots on other threads, however I am trying to get my hands on my brothers collection which I hope to publish on here when I see him.
Yes indeed, all are welcome.
Those who are coming, keep adding names to this thread, and I’ll add it all up the week before.
Bruce
Every time I go round the M25, as I attempted to this week, I look over to the museum and say ‘must go there sometime’ but never have, with my enthusiasm for DH aircraft and Mossies in particular I don’t understand why I haven’t got round to it, so I’ll definately make a trip over that day, even if I have to mingle with Forumites!
A good day out was had, Mildenhall was dead, we saw one movement in and out (both KC135s). You can’t get to Mickey’s tea bar any longer, it is all barricaded off with grunts and HumVees in the way, it used to be opposite the old main gate. I introduced my son to the delights of Little Chef instead….
LH was better, 2 ship went off at 13:30 on the spot, as predicted, and returned 20 mins later, one doing a missed approach and circuit.
Then nothing…..I just decided to give it 10 more minutes then I started to hear noise…lots of it, then 16 Eagles taxied out!
They obviously have an external check done at the holding point which takes a few minutes (never seen that before?), and then they went out 2 x 6 ship and then a 4 ship departure.
Unfortunately son then got tired so I had to leave before they all returned….
Did they all do the vertical climb at the end of the runway.
Never knew about Mickeys, but can anyone remember the amazing model/American comic shop in Mildenhall. I presume that the American comics found their way in from the US personel, I used to have difficulty in dragging my son away from there, have still got a load of Marvel comics in polythene bags, this has inspired me to dig them out for the next generation of young Truman appreciators.The model shop had a fantastic collection of transfers, I used to spend hours going through them all. They also had a link with the control tower at Mildenhall which was constantly being broadcast in the shop. One evening we were going through the transfers when the tower anounced that F-117’s were about to take off from Lakenheath, the first time they had been deployed outside the US, fortunately I had my camcorder with me and we shot over there to witness 3 off them being launched. I recall a van load of builders arriving and being very jealous that I was videoing the event.
Memorable moment was an F-117 flying across the sunset to the strains of the Stars and Stripes being played over the Lakenheath PA.
Must have been about 12 years ago.
What happened to the shop.
Well, I’ve added meself but all I get is error on page and no map, presumably I’m in the Cambridge logjam.
The aircraft is in one of the hangers on the west side of the airfield, one of the ones that the aircraft tails stick out the back of. Apparently there was so many people there last Friday that the police were moving people along from the back roads and threatning to book people. I went Wednesday in the vain hope of seeing her but alas failed, infact the only thing that I did see other than the tanker doing circuits was a 2 seat F16 that arrived from somewere ( had SP on the fin if that helps ). Working tommorow so I guess my chance has gone. 🙁
SP will be Spang…..heim….. whatever, in Germany, one of those hangars on the west side had the doors wide open yesterday and was empty, maybe it was off somewhere and came back while I was at Lakenheath, have to say that there were very few people about around Mildenhall yesterday, I had to smile when I parked up next to a camper van near the caravan site and a very smart typical top exec company car stopped next to me and the flash occupant wearing the typical Armani type suit got out and started scanning the area with a very expensive looking pair of bins, it takes all sorts.
I would imagine that the area will be saturated with spotters today so the police will be kept busy, I think I will work on the kitchen instead.
A local newspaper article on the WB57 deployment to Mildenhall has
confirmed that the aircraft is due to depart on Saturday 22/10/2005,
unfortunately the time of departure is still unknown.EDIT: One of the spotters is punting 1300 as the departure time.
What credence you give to that is up to you.
Moggy
Having spent a very wet and frightening trip to North London this morning on business, I ended up at Bishops Stortford, then thought sod it I’ll have the afternoon off for a change and hammered up to Mildenhall on the off chance I might see this fabled WB-57, took a surprisingly short time to get there as well.
Couldn’t see it anywhere, but a/c were short on the ground anyway, apart from the ubiqutous tankers, 2 of which were constantly doing circuits and bumps, presumably practising to find Duxford next year, there were no EC-135’s, only 2 C-130’s, a C17 and nice to see the old faithful Galaxy again. Presume the WB-57 was in one of the main hangers, did it fly over the Atlantic to monitor the latest hurricane, what is the story in the local paper.
Went to Lakenheath to be told that a TR-1 had landed that morning and was hidden away somewhere.
Some nice take offs by the Eagles, order of the day was full reheat, keep it low then a vertical climb to infinity and beyond, the best one was the pilot who barrel rolled around a cloud at about 10,000ft.
Plenty of noise and action on return to, perhaps they were also practising for Duxford next year, also the C-135’s had got fed up with burning rubber at Mildenhall and started on Lakenheath, at one stage I thought one was getting to close for comfort to an F-15 about to take off, but fear not no haze.
Good afternoons entertainment but no WB-57, if the wind is in the same direction it will take off east-west, not so good for those taxying shots, the way things are now with security on the base, anyone in the know let us in on the info as I’m quite taken with this a/c.
Do they intend to open up the viewing area at Mildenhall, it seems to be full of rubble and JCB’s, if Lakenheath can do it,( with interesting CCTV cameras on tripods), why not the bigger boys.
Unfortunately I couldn’t make it to the last show of the year. Even if I had, I seldom get down to the tank bank for many of the reasons you outline.
I believe the WB-57 is due to depart Mildenhall (which it is currently sharing with a couple of F18s) this coming Saturday – 22nd October.
if I recall correctly, the USAF presence at the last Farnborough executed a spiffing display – over Blackbushe. I may be wrong but I think it might have been a B2 that staged all the way from the US and went back home only ever having been seen in the distance.
Moggy
Regarding the MB-57
Cheers for that Moggy, but do you or anyone else for that matter know the departure time, why is it here, does it fly during the day and is it parked up near the EC-135’s, I’m working at home for the next couple of days so a little drive up the road is a distinct possibility, the last time I saw a B-57 was probably about 40 years ago.
Has the NASA presence got anything to do with the fact that there is an astronaut and cosmonaut lecture tour of the UK at the moment, one of the cosmonauts, and I’m led to believe that it’s Leonov, the first man to walk in space, is giving a lecture to my stepson’s year at Tabor High School, Braintree at the end of the month, followed by a parents talk in the evening, can’t wait, doubt wether I dare wear my Soviet pilots dress cap though, what will it be worth on E-Bay if I get it autographed.
Will the MB-57 come back for Leg-Ends.
Just dug out my 1961/62 edition of the fabled Combined Volume:-
LMS Patriot class, many of them named after WWI regiments and heroes, ie 45537, Private E Sykes VC.
LMS Jubilee class, many of them named after famous admirals and battles, ie 45682, Trafalgar.
LMS Royal Scot class, named after army regiments but included 46159, The Royal Air Force.
LNER V2 class, names of regiments including what I believe was the longest ever nameplate, 60809, The Snapper, The East Yorkshire Regiment, The Duke of Yorks Own, whats that worth now.
North British Railway, class J36, named after WW1 generals and battles, ie 65222, Somme.
BR Britannia class, a few generals in there, ie 70034, Lord Kitchener.
Deisels and electrics can get stuffed but don’t forget the Warships and the odd Peak.
That must cause this thread to be removed to the Railway Magazine.
Incidentally, someone mentioned the Nene Valley Railway, I once spent a happy hour in a layby on the A1 watching the train attack scene being filmed for A Piece of Cake involving 2 Spitfires, all condensed into 10 seconds.
Yep i believe they removed the narrow gauge track at Duxford. Was it ever used anyway? Would have been nice for them to use the WW1 loco’s, especially the armoured Simplex, up and down the line, could have given rides for money as well
They did up untill about 10 years ago, we used to take the kids on it during the airshows, never stopped running even during the flying displays, was a fantastic way of getting up close to taxying aircraft. At the end of the line was a trench system which the train looped round, this brought you to the end of the runway which got quite exciting when things were landing or doing low and fast flyby’s, have some good video footage from the early 90’s taken from the train of all this, presumably health and safety waved their wands and put a stop to it.
Incidentally, the WW1 wreck is off Brancaster Beach and miles from Weybourne, we once rowed out to it in a flotilla of inflatables at low tide, most impressive wreck, especially the engine, too dangerous to get inside though. I believe it was a collier from the North East that put itself close inshore during a U-boat warning and ran aground, I don’t think that there were any fatalities, but someone may know more about it, over to you.
Incidentally, I disagree that rebuilt BoB’s were ugly, I think they were quite powerful looking beasts, my great possesion is a boxed, mint, 3-rail, Hornby Dublo version of it, needs a new bearing for the Ringfield motor though. The last unrebuilt version in service was a West Country, Blackmore Vale, which I photo’d at Eastleigh in 1967, I know that this has survived into preservation and may be the most original, apart from Winston Churchill, as most of the Barry recoveries have been newly clad.
Errr, me as well, according to the delectable Julie, the weather will be perfick, warm sunny and a few clouds for contrast, just like they predicted for September 15th, I’m dying to try out the new collapsible chair I bought out of frustration during the last ‘show’, so look out for the saddo on the tank bank tangled up in canvas, well it was only £6:99.
Back in my short spell on Wessex in the late ’80s, the minimum height for fixed wing in a Low Flying Area was 250′, so we tended to transit at 1500′, then drop to 100′, unless we were on Pre-Ireland training where we operated at 50′ (scary, expecially doing formation!).
We used to listen out keenly for radio calls of fixed wing entering & leaving the LFA. Jags, Tornados & Harriers, didn’t concern us too much, we would keep a general eye out, what scared us was A10s and Herks.
If we heard ‘Alpha one zero’ in an american accent we immediately went to high alert and flew a zig-zag pattern with me hanging out the door watching the rear.The Herks didn’t bother rising to follow contours & obstacles so much as they should have done, they just ploughed on regardless, but we tended to see them sooner, and they were a little slower….
I once saw 12 Hercs travelling in line astern near Bovingdon in Dorset so low that they kept disapearing behind the trees, I assumed that the idea was for the poor troops inside to step on to the ground rather than risk their parachutes.
One year I decided to go for a quiet farm caravan holiday near Lampeter in Wales.
Unfortunately, well, not really, the caravan was situated at the junction of 2 valleys, the USAF tended to fly east to west and the RAF north to south, I got the impression that communication between them was not all it should have been, particularly when a Tornado shot across the tail of an F111 at about 100ft, that was the only time that I saw the F-5 Agressors in action by the way.
It didn’t surprise me when a few years later it was reported that a Harrier? had collided with a light aircraft near the same spot, I recall that the Cessna? disintegrated but can’t remember what happened to the RAF crew.
Right then, if it’s ok to discuss chuff chuffs in an aviation context, does any body know what some of the a/c at The Fleet Air Arm Museum and BoB class Winston Churchill have in common.
Ok, I’ll let you out of your misery and not turn his into a quiz.
As you all know the FAAM are restoring some of their airframes by stripping back the later paintwork to reveal the original colours and markings, I believe the Corsair has been been ‘done’ and the Martlet is next, or is it the other way around.
Winston Churchill was always earmarked to pull the Great Man’s funeral train and up until his death was maintained in pristine condition and little used.
Following the funeral, the loco ran light back to London and was stored pending preservation, I don’t think it ever steamed again. Subsequently having been kept in various locations it ended up in York Museum in the 70’s where it lives today.
Having never been mechanically restored to working order and kept under cover for 40 years,the loco has probably never been repainted. I gave it a good going over last year when I went to the Railfest and I came to the conclusion that it retained it’s original early 60’s paintwork, or can someone prove me wrong.
I can’t think of another steam loco in preservation that retains it’s original BR paintwork in such good condition, possibly Evening Star, but that must have been pulled to pieces a few times when it’s been steamed over the past 40 years.
I was shopping in Sheringham last year when a low loader appeared in the car park with 92 Squadron’s tender on the back, the loco arrived several days later due to mechanical problems, I thought that the paintwork looked a bit tired, never liked malachite green, GWR green was much more satisfying.
No, I have’nt got a paint fetish.
Will 92 Squadron be at Leg-ends next year?