Crikey 😮 wasn’t the HMS Hood was it? There were only three survivors, and one of them survived pretty much exactly how your great grandad did. Apart from Hood i think only one other British Battleship in WW2 got sunk

Sorry, Hood was a Battlecruiser, battleships sunk were Royal Oak,( Scapa Flow), Hood, Prince of Wales and Repulse ( Battle Cruiser) by Japanese, Barham, ( Mediterranean ), I believe Iron Duke was deliberately sunk as a blockship off Portland.
Most of the others seem to have got damaged at sometime or other, the Warspite had to have a massive refit in the US.
Probably the aformentioned was on the Barham, amazing film of it turning turtle and sinking with the poor sods running around on the keel.

Though a fantastic documentary, The Memphis Belle (1944) is not a strictly accurate account of one flight on one day as it portrays. It was filmed on many ocasions on several planes and half of it in the USA. It is a great representationin the end though, despite its faults.

The problem with when they set out to make it entertaining yet based on fact, they often still put across the premise that it happened that way, so the gullible think it’s true.

Take U-571, I watched and thought it was a fantastic piece of intelligent entertainment that drew on real stories for inspiration. I was quite shocked to later hear many people thought that it was a true story, and others thought it was Hollywood trying to say it was a true story. To me it was no more true than like a film based on an Alastair Maclean book or whatever. Others took it as fact that the US got the Enigma first. It’s in the perception. I still like the film.

On the other hand when they take a true story, bend it all out of proportion and then continue to say its the true story (like Pearl Harbor, The Patriot, Windtalkers, etc) tht’s just wrong. You don’t see this happening much at all outside of Hollywood, which is why people around the world get up in arms because non-Americans perhaps trust the accuracy of of own historical films more and thus expect that we should be able to trust Hollywood’s, if you see what I mean.

One of the greatest films made in my opinion, and though based on fact no-one can argue its accuracy as it’s not known, is JFK. I love that film. Great cast, great writing, great acting. That and Thirteen Days are he only Costner films I’ve seen that are worth watching.

U-571 I had to switch off after 15 minutes, my missus was even critisising it and she is definatetly not a knowledgeable keen type, she said that with your knowledge of things how can you be spoon fed this c**p, I had to agree, so will never watch it.
Come on, the directors cut of Dances with Wolves is absoloutly fantastic Mr Costners greatest film, not allowed to watch it though because madam can’t cope with the wolf and horse being shot, we have horses but dogs rather than wolves.
Field of Dreams is pretty good as well, you obviously have a thing about Mr Costner that I have’nt, and I accept he has made c***py films.
JFK is very clever, but not convincing.
PS Where in NZ do you live, have you always lived there and are you crying out for architects because the UK is beggining to get up my nose but due to political corectness can’t say why.

Why is it there? Always liked to see these display at Mildenhall, always rivallry between the Canadians and the Luftwaffe.
Have been to a few modern shows like RIAT in recent years and there have been Starfighters there but they never fly in the displays.
A few years ago, pre 9/11, I went to a craft fair at Lakenheath and 2 Italian Starfighters were parked on the ramp next to the hangar being used for the fair.
On the way out I asked the 2 heavily armed guards why they were there but was not allowed to ask or photograph, they didn’t even know what they were, sad.

Errrrghhh!!

Here was a chance to try to actually get some constructive debate going on good accurate historic films made in Hollywood, after all the years of pointing out the bad ones. I mean, maybe some films would have come up worth watching, we may have learned something.

But no.

Take your point.
Just done a reply but my computer crashed, will have to remember what I said.
2 additional films, ‘The Longest Day’ and ‘Patton’
One thing about the Longest Day was that it didn’t contain any digs at the British unlike Patton, Band of Brothers, Private Ryan and A Bridge Too Far.
Having said that, it wasn’t surprising that digs were made in these films, especially with regard to Montgomery in Patton, quote from Patton ‘ Hell, we’re both prima donnas, but I’m the only one that knows it’
A Bridge Too Far was critised at the time, but my old man who was part of XXX Corps, always told me it was pretty realistic.
One critisism was the truth about the US Airborne crossing the river at Nijmuiden, well my old man directed the artillery support for the crossing, he said it was one of the bravest things he ever saw, went across the bridge under fire and witnessed the stand off with the Airborne and the Tank Regiments reluctance to advance further. The Airborne got him out of a lot of scrapes with the SS during that campaign and I never heard him utter a bad word about the American contribution to the war effort.
Has that restored sanity?
Just thought of another, how about ‘Thin Red Line’, fantastic film, unfortunately my son went off to Nottingham Uni yesterday and took it with him.

🙁 Not on the 13-00 show BUT they do promise a story on the 50 th anniversary of the fishfinger :rolleyes: later on this evening.

They did refer to Freddie Flintoff though.

When over enemy territory I never would use autopilot. Each plane had 2 pilots
I would find relief using the bomb bay

Have been lucky enough to have been able to look around the interior of B-17 Sally B. Found the walkway over the bomb bay quite hair raising and would probably have sat on the toilet pre take off for a few hours rather than go in there during flight.

😮 TOP STUFF 😮 , I’m finding them all so interesting 😉 .

Do we have any thought’s,
From any of the ” Lady’s ” around the World :confused: , who may too suffer from this MALE disorder, of being tottally PLANEMAD or slighty TOUCHED :rolleyes: (alway’s up in the cloud’s on a sunny day) in the head.

Cya :p

My missus is totally hooked on Jaguars ! Last year we went camping in Norfolk, just happened to be under the take off route from Coltishall and they were training with Polish SU-22’s that week. On the first morning the fly overs were incredible, resulting in one happy Liz running back in a state of excitement from the showers and insisting that we went straight over to the airfield where she spent an hour right at the end of the runway getting deafened by the jet blast. Just about every activity that week involved being near jaguars, almost every trip out happened to pass the runway.
This year we decided to go to Cornwall, which is what we did in the end, but suddenly realising the imminent demise of Coltishall, we did desperately try to book cottages at the last minute in Norfolk without success, I don’t know how she will cope when they are finally disbanded.
As I’ve said before we get a lot of a/c over the house transiting from Duxford, there is usually pretty much of a fight to get through the door first.
The day we got back from Cornwall, having seen little aviation activity all week, we parked on our drive, walked up to the door and a spitfire and mustang flew over,”That,” she said,” is the best welcome home you could possibly have.”
Must be something to do with me !!!