Thanks for that, having now done a bit of Googling based on your info, I feel privilaged to have witnessed such a significant aircraft in flight, pity my ropey photograph didn’t give it the justice it deserved, does anyone have a picture of it on the ground that day, as a youngster at the time, I’m afraid I was rather more enthusiastic to take my limited number of pictures of the latest USAF offerings instead.
Was it really the first jet airliner to have circumnavigated the globe.
I actually have a few more ropey airshow pictures of Comets, I’ll dig them out to see if it appeared elsewhere.
How would you feel if you’d just run down from Yorkshire, having had to see off the multitude of pretenders who had landed there.
Henry Ford was right, ‘History is bunk’, ces’t la vie, it doesn’t matter anymore, whats done is done.
How would you feel if you’d just run down from Yorkshire, having had to see off the multitude of pretenders who had landed there.
Henry Ford was right, ‘History is bunk’, ces’t la vie, it doesn’t matter anymore, whats done is done.
I don’t know where this information comes from, or it’s alleged significance, but please note that one of the statements quoted is word for word my posted thread 26 made on here on the 21st May 2005 regarding this terrible accident, they were my personal views of what happened on the day, other people who were at Mildenhall may have seen things differently, so is all this merely a dredged up load of comments from various forums, or ‘official’, I think not, lets not go into all this again please, it’s purely conjecture and dragging up the past of a very sad incident all over again. For whatever reason, it happened, lets leave it at that.
Can someone give the current status of Seafire PP972, there was a seemingly guarded comment about it back in August that it was now with it’s owner, so where is it now, near Stalham, Norfolk. How far did it’s restoration get, it sounded quite advanced to me, various Googled references suggest it was airworthy at a variety of places, Earls Colne, North Weald, I know it never was, but what has been the problem, as it seems to have been so close to being finished, a lot of time, effort and money spent in vain doesn’t add up to me. From what I gather Hawker Restorations were involved at some point, so what happened, is it all political, in which case I’ll shut me gob.
Incidentally, Hawkers website doesn’t seem to have been updated for over 3 years which, considering their amazing achievements, seems a little odd.
What salt !
It’s that big lump on the roof that bothers me, we had someone else’s large chunks come away and bash against our windscreen yesterday and as they were going the other way we didn’t see it coming.
What salt !
It’s that big lump on the roof that bothers me, we had someone else’s large chunks come away and bash against our windscreen yesterday and as they were going the other way we didn’t see it coming.
Things in Essex were pretty grim yesterday, we did have a lot of snow, but we were warned, all the major roads were clear, yet all the schools and local authority establishments were closed and the place was like a ghost town.
One problem is that many people work and live out in the countryside and there are no gritters programmed to operate on those routes.
My missus works for a local fairly large and busy haulage company in the styx and the council will not grit the road out to these villages despite several other companies operating out there and asking them to do so.
This was our untreated road in Braintree at 8:00am yesterday morning:-
She managed to get to work, but it was hard going.
This was the untreated road to her depot, 4 artics went out and 2 of them promptly slid into a ditch:-

The problem this morning was untreated ice, again all the schools are closed and the roads are appalling, it took her an hour to get in this morning.
Incidentally, some drivers really need lessons in how to deal with these conditions. I went with my missus yesterday and the standard of driving was appalling, it was an eratic driver coming the other way that forced the lorries into the ditch, later on I was watching idiots in Sainsburies driving far to fast in the untreated car park and nearly smashing into other cars because of their stupidity.
Incidentally Future Pilot, perhaps you could have removed some more snow off your car, it wouldn’t have taken long, if you thought it was a good idea to drive like that with reduced visibility and large chunks of snow falling off and landing on whatever was behind, well, words fail me.
Things in Essex were pretty grim yesterday, we did have a lot of snow, but we were warned, all the major roads were clear, yet all the schools and local authority establishments were closed and the place was like a ghost town.
One problem is that many people work and live out in the countryside and there are no gritters programmed to operate on those routes.
My missus works for a local fairly large and busy haulage company in the styx and the council will not grit the road out to these villages despite several other companies operating out there and asking them to do so.
This was our untreated road in Braintree at 8:00am yesterday morning:-
She managed to get to work, but it was hard going.
This was the untreated road to her depot, 4 artics went out and 2 of them promptly slid into a ditch:-

The problem this morning was untreated ice, again all the schools are closed and the roads are appalling, it took her an hour to get in this morning.
Incidentally, some drivers really need lessons in how to deal with these conditions. I went with my missus yesterday and the standard of driving was appalling, it was an eratic driver coming the other way that forced the lorries into the ditch, later on I was watching idiots in Sainsburies driving far to fast in the untreated car park and nearly smashing into other cars because of their stupidity.
Incidentally Future Pilot, perhaps you could have removed some more snow off your car, it wouldn’t have taken long, if you thought it was a good idea to drive like that with reduced visibility and large chunks of snow falling off and landing on whatever was behind, well, words fail me.
Very sad news, who’s going to keep Aggers and Blowers in check now.
The rumour is that he caught the disease in Dubai, possibly from contaminated water, says a lot for that place, constantly promoted as ‘the’ dream country to live in.
Very sad news, who’s going to keep Aggers and Blowers in check now.
The rumour is that he caught the disease in Dubai, possibly from contaminated water, says a lot for that place, constantly promoted as ‘the’ dream country to live in.
A shame you never saw any of his early performances or met the man PMN.
There are some performances on Youtube including an early 70’s version of ‘I’d Rather be the Devil’ which looks to have come off the ‘Whistle Test’.
It was quite something to see this figure up on stage with his sanded down Martin accoustic producing all these incredible sounds via his Synthovox thingy whatsit tape loop device or whatever it was, no clever digital electronics in those days.
We saw him at Nottingham Uni once and the floor was shaking with the incredible sounds he was producing, we couldn’t believe it wasn’t pre-recorded, but no way, it was just him, Danny Thompson even cleared off for a pint and left him to it.
My legacy from him was from one of our conversations, ‘Stick to Martin light gauge strings old son’, I still use them to this day.
He did produce an album called ‘Live at Leeds’ which captures those early live performances. Island Records wouldn’t distribute it and only a few copies were sent out from his house.
When I met him at the studio he promised to send me a copy and promptly forgot, it eventually arrived after quite a bit of reminding, hence the great signature on the back, I wonder how many copies of this album are about.




No sleeve notes or anything, just a plain white cover.
He’ll be sorely missed.
A shame you never saw any of his early performances or met the man PMN.
There are some performances on Youtube including an early 70’s version of ‘I’d Rather be the Devil’ which looks to have come off the ‘Whistle Test’.
It was quite something to see this figure up on stage with his sanded down Martin accoustic producing all these incredible sounds via his Synthovox thingy whatsit tape loop device or whatever it was, no clever digital electronics in those days.
We saw him at Nottingham Uni once and the floor was shaking with the incredible sounds he was producing, we couldn’t believe it wasn’t pre-recorded, but no way, it was just him, Danny Thompson even cleared off for a pint and left him to it.
My legacy from him was from one of our conversations, ‘Stick to Martin light gauge strings old son’, I still use them to this day.
He did produce an album called ‘Live at Leeds’ which captures those early live performances. Island Records wouldn’t distribute it and only a few copies were sent out from his house.
When I met him at the studio he promised to send me a copy and promptly forgot, it eventually arrived after quite a bit of reminding, hence the great signature on the back, I wonder how many copies of this album are about.




No sleeve notes or anything, just a plain white cover.
He’ll be sorely missed.

Did anybody see this underrated musical genius in his heyday, I saw him twice in the 70’s around the time of the immortal ‘Solid Air’ album, I was also lucky enough to sit in on a very contraversial interview he did at the Radio Nottingham studios.
For those unfamiliar with his performances I believe he features on Transatlantic Sessions, BBC4, 7:30, Friday evening.
John Martyn RIP

Did anybody see this underrated musical genius in his heyday, I saw him twice in the 70’s around the time of the immortal ‘Solid Air’ album, I was also lucky enough to sit in on a very contraversial interview he did at the Radio Nottingham studios.
For those unfamiliar with his performances I believe he features on Transatlantic Sessions, BBC4, 7:30, Friday evening.
John Martyn RIP