Sorry I missed you to Damien. And it was your turn to buy the toasted cheese sarnies.
Hmm – becareful with health and safety in regard to hard hats…
Shame to see it like that (an aircraft so young in a museum, I mean), but at least it isn’t being parted out.
Well, their Canberra guy was wearing a hard hat (under the port side in my last photo) 😉
Seems ZE694 is 1988 vintage – just 17 years old! Jeese, 39Sqn’s Canberras have oleos older’n that. :diablo:
BTW, while I’m here, MAM’s outdoor Canberra, WF922, is one of only two PR.3s left in the world (complete airframe). The other is in Hendon – the record breaker WE319. The MAM Canberra guy has spent the last year making the systems work. Electrics (including a fully working cockpit) and hydraulics all work and can be “hackled”. Damien can tell you just how tough it was for us CanMen to hand-pump the air brakes, and then just managing to crack open the flare bay doors. Good job we didn’t try to pump the u/c up, we’d still be there. 😀
Go see it yourself, you may even get a chance to try it for yourself.
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I will be popping up shortly to retrieve a piece of one of my cockpits. Any message for the owners or any info’ you require ? I can but ask….
Dave
I’d be interested in anything you can find out about the Canberra T.4 WT483. Owner’s intentions, plans (if any), etc. Thanks.
682al
Sounds as if that’s the beast, cheers, I’ll pass that gen on.
Be good to know what specific type of aircraft it was used on. There used to be record cards for such hi-value bits of kit which gave their life history and mod state. Sadly, nobody seems to keep such mundane things.
Humm the pictures do seem alittle dark or small or ? 🙂
Really? Whose? :rolleyes:
W_P
These probably were used on canberras although don’t quote me on that – i am not well versed in jets!
Yes they were, but not that style. Pic shows a Type 35 as fitted in a Canberra PR.3 (and PR.7). Similarities to the far one of the three grey boxes was what made my friend get the subject one in the first place.
HP57
. . . of the British bombers and on the top of the instrument panel of the Spit XIX. I always call it a camera control box.
Interesting. Can you say for definite the box in question is an RAF fit – especialy for the Spit XIX.
Think I’ll just add a couple more of the Haystack at Newark. These were taken a few weeks back.
Considering the ‘frame has been outside for yonks, it’s in fairly good static condition. Never fly again of course, nor turn an engine, but it’s a tad more accessible than the one at Dux.
Thanks for the quick reply W_P. We had already reckoned it was an intervalometer but can’t decide it’s origin – don’t think it’s a Canberra bit :rolleyes:, looks American to me.
Canberra B(I)8 – WT346
This airframe is still in storage at Weedons in NZ in its transportable state. See http://www.bywat.co.uk/wt346.html
WT346 was a good sample of the Canberra designed as an Interdictor and was the only complete airframe in the UK. Flixton has a cockpit section, XM279 (http://www.bywat.co.uk/xm279.html), and there’s a burnt out example at RAF Barkston Heath – WT339, (http://www.bywat.co.uk/wt339.html)
The only complete B(I)8 airframe left in Europe is XM264 at Flugausstellung Junior – near Hermeskeil, Germany. And its in a sad state (http://www.bywat.co.uk/xm264.html)
Hope this helps. 🙂
(All this makes me very sad! 🙁 )
Thanks Paul, just the ticket. 🙂
However, can anybody provide any further information on the participants, Sqn Ldr Rumbold in particular.
NO idea where it came from or who the artist is. Wish I knew so I could track down a print.
It is a Philip West painting. Shows a P-38J of 38th Fighter Squadron, 55th Fighter Group, USAAF at Station 131, Nuthampstead, Hertfordshire, England in February 1944. Reproduction by AERLINES, Print No 11.
This amount of detail doesn’t mean I’m a Lightning nut (well, maybe the twin Avon type) – it does mean that I have this print (on heavy art paper). Print is quite large, 32 inches x 20 inches, got it some years ago and have never had it mounted. PM me, see if we can come to some arrangement. What say you? 😉
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all here. 🙂
Regarding the Typhoon/Me262 drawing –
To my knowledge it didn’t – hence it piqued my interest!! . . .
I guess you’re saying here that 609 didn’t shoot down any 262s Snapper. The first Me 262 to be shot down was by a 3(F)Sqn Tempest pilot, P/O RW (Bob) Cole on 13 Oct 1944. His kite was JN868 and the 262 was 9K + FL flown by UnterOfficer Edmund Delatowski. Bob Cole closed from 400 to 100 yards and his burst of cannon fire caused the 262 to blow up. This gen from the 3 Sqn historian and also, I believe, in Chris Thomas and Chris Shaw’s book Typhoon & Tempest Story. Seems there were six or seven Me262s shot down by Tempests/Typhoons in 1944 (including one by 486 Sqn) not bad for prop-v-jet.
Also, agree about PaulC’s renderings, very professional, maybe he should apply to the Guild of Aviation Artists (if he is not already a member)
The Marham Canberras are getting on a bit too.
The PR.9s are all 1959 vintage except XH168 and XH169 which are 1960.
The oldest is T.4 WJ874, Blue Bomber currently undergoing a Minor at Hurn and due back on the sqn in January next. It was awaiting collection on 24 Dec 1954 and first user was the Station Flight at RAF Gaydon. So – in five days time WJ874 will be 50! The longest serving aircraft in the RAF. (And I bet nobody will notice. . . . 😡 )
Fairly bemused by all the minging on this thread. Sad denouncements from a bunch of people who get all dreamy-eyed over warbirds – planes that were designed explicitly to strafe, drop bombs, kill people and break their stuff. 😡
I’m with Damien on this, lighten up, it’s only banter. Gawds, some of you wouldn’t have lasted five minutes in the RAF of my day. :diablo:
The EE Canberra, B(I)8 version . . . just slips through the skies looking sublime with it’s pilot sitting side-saddle. 😉
And the the Hunter of course. :rolleyes:
Hi Albert
Good point, but I don’t think I’d make that sort of mistake. 😎
I mentioned WT308 as a possible ident for Glen’s Canberra at Kemble because it seemed to be the one that fitted the detail Glen sent me about this pic back in 2000.
First. Glen’s couldn’t have been the cranberry that Rob flew in because, if it is WT308 at Kemble, that didn’t join the Farnborough fleet until Nov 1966 (Rob’s flight was in 1961).
Second. As Damien says, the “civie” Canberras flew with all sorts of strange and wonderful nose configurations. In this case though, I think that this B(I)6 had had its nose glazing covered (with neoprene rather than paint?) because in Glen’s pic you can clearly see the nose glazing joint line (very near the front). If it had been a T.4 the panel joint line where the nose hinges open would have been much further back towards the cockpit.
Third. As the (poor b/w scan) pic here shows, WT308 was in the same configuration when pictured a year earlier at Farnborough with RAE’s Western Squadron. The aircraft in the pic are Hunter T.7 XL563 (see also on Damien’s site for this Hunter), Canberra B(I)6 WT308 (subject of this post) and T.4 WH844 (note different paint job with sexy cheat line – blue in colour).
Accordingly I opted for WT308 for Glen’s Canberra at Kemble and, for different reasons, opted for WH952 for Rob’s flight experience. 😉
Hope this helps. 😉