Challenge for Albert – Harrier GR1? Only ever seen video of it
There’s no way you can prove it but I suspect that the BA Collection’s future at Cosford died the day they decided not to send a Concorde there
I have a list of the contents but I doubt if when I visited in 1964 that they existed.
Cornell FT681
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That intruiges me – not many Cornells made it to the UK IIRC, and a ‘local’ one sound interesting!
I wonder if the glider field at Scotlandwell has any interesting bits lying around!
Any records of Naval ditchings/crashes in that area? the prop shape looks similar to the one used by Hellcats and later Corsairs
2) Your said “I also refreshed my memory of the Concorde hanger and now remember why it won’t be moving about much as the roof trusses had to be altered to allow it in.”. No, its the exact opposite! East Fortune has conservation orders on the buildings. The museum could not get permanent permission for the Concorde stuff, looking at the East Lothian planning permission applications (http://www.planning.eastlothian.gov.uk/) click on the tab “search application” (don’t try and log on) and enter application number 04/00714/FUL in the correct box. It states they only have five years permission (from July 2005) for the shops etc which they erected and they must have the site clear and restored by the end of that period.
Surprisingly, I don’t see mention of permission for the modifications to the Hangar roof, do they have permission for this I wonder ? Some things would not surprise me.It appears that Concorde was brought to East Fortune without permanent planning permission, it cannot stay where it is and no other hangars are big enough.
I disagree Fauxpas – the Planning App soley relates to the erection of the Portaca…, sorry, temporary building rather than Concorde (which, as it is stuck inside a hanger, doesn’t require PP on it’s own. Nor does any outside aircraft due to the nauture of the PP for the site as a whole). The plan always was to replace that with ‘something else’ outwith the Scheduled Ancient Monument area
I also suspect that the slight mod to the hanger wouldn’t have needed PP either, as IIRC, being relatively modern, it’s NOT part of the SAM listing. They may have needed building control (sorry, Standards) approval
Mmmm, wonder if a drive up there would reveal anything – been a few years…
All those posts when someone could have just said Breighton…….
So is R1914 still at Strathallan?
http://members.aol.com/warwicaero/milesaircraft/survivors.html
I would imagine one factor that is limiting them is the need to be in a location that is accessible to the majority of the public, if the ‘Living Museum’ idea is to pay for itself. (Thus ruling out Coltishall)
Thanks for the honest answer Tom
Not strictly related, but there is ‘something’ that looks like aircraft wreckage off Weston-Super-Mare, only becomes visible a few times a year when the tide is at it’s lowest. just above the low water mark. Could be a boat or ship, but anyone know if anything known there?
The 111 and the Viscount will fit in with East Fortune’s avowed Civil slant these days – be interesting to see what their plans are for development (I recall trhat they had a hanger planned ofr outside the listed area). I do fear for restoration of the Beaufighter.
Historic aircraft on the move
A collection of former British Airways aircraft is to be moved from the RAF Museum in Cosford to new homes.
The five historic aircraft, known officially as The BA Collection, have been resident at the RAF Museum for the past few decades.
Following a review of the aircraft’s future by the RAF Museum and British Airways it was decided that they had to be found new homes.
The five aircraft will be moving to:
Vickers Viscount 701 – The aircraft will be dismantled and reconstructed in full at The Museum of Flight, East Fortune – part of The National Museums of Scotland.
BAC 1-11 – The aircraft will be dismantled and reconstructed in full at The Museum of Flight, East Fortune.
Boeing 707-436 – The front fuselage (forward of the wings) will be transported to The Museum of Flight, East Fortune.
Vickers VC10 – It is intended that the front fuselage (forward of the wings) and some parts of technical interest will be moved to Brooklands Museum in Surrey.
Hawker Siddeley Trident – The cockpit and nose section will be transported to The Museum of Flight, East Fortune.
Geoff Want, British Airways’ director of ground operations, said: “I am pleased that we have been able to find good homes for these aircraft.
“We have developed strong links with both museums following the move of Concorde Alpha Alpha from Heathrow to Scotland and the move of Concorde Delta Golf from Filton to Brooklands.
“We are sure that both museums will give the same levels of care to these historic aircraft as they have shown to our Concordes.
“These aircraft are an important part of the UK’s aviation heritage and will hopefully add extra interest to both museums’ current aircraft displays.
“I would like to thank the RAF Museum for all their support and for all the care they have given to these aircraft over the past few decades.
“In the coming months we will co-ordinate the deconstruction and reconstruction of these aircraft with all the museums to ensure that the new displays will be of the highest possible quality.”
The aircraft will be disassembled and re-assembled at their new homes by Air Salvage International.
The company worked closely with British Airways and the two museums during 2004 when it deconstructed and reconstructed Concorde Alpha Alpha and Concorde Delta Golf.
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I saw the M18 fly at Cumbernauld Airshow in 1987, lovely aircraft
Obviously not a 109, but another from my small collection:- JU88A-5 HM509, taken on a winters day in 1942 by a US Airman. The aircraft dropped into RAF hands at Chivenor on 26 November 1941.
Nice! Thanks for posting
Interesting stuff, how many of those were captured by the RAF?
109s?
I have notes/photos of over 20, but in terms of the UK, there were 9:
2 x 109 E (AE479 and DG200)
2 x 109 F (ES409 and NN644)
1x 109 G-2 (RN228)
2x 109G-6 (TP184 and VX101)
2x 109 G-14 (VD358 and VD364)
Overseas, types include Fs, G6, G10 and G14AS
Has anyone ever seen an RAF or Army Chippie in grey/green camo? I know about the Grren/Earth Army ones, but I have a profile in an old (early 70s) magazine of one in the aforementioned colours.