I don’t that East Fortune have the space either.
No. I came across a 10 year old article about east fortune where they talked about a new exhibition hall outside the historic area to hold the Comet and Concorde, and that the plan was to start restoring the Beaufighter the next year! Still waiting!
I suppose it’s a long shot, but wouldn’t it be great if the Dominie could be re-engineered back to original standard – then you could slap CAW markings on it – ahh, Manby… ahh, Strubby… 🙂
The one Newark have obtained is pretty much in original configuration (No new nose sections) having been withdrawn before the mid life update
OOps, didn’t see Dave’s post earlier!
Really do hope that the Javelin can find a good home as it is a significant aircraft and should not be lost.
Last remaining mk 4. It would fill a gap in the East fortune Collection, but I doubt they would have the money.
Ah, but is it a “Seafire”, or a “Sea Fire”? 😉
hee hee – Pilots Notes for the respective types say Seafire and Sea Hawk!!
Lee, could you outline the differences for us?
One would be relevant to Cosford and the Cold War Exhibition I would have thought, even in USAF colours – although one in SEAC marking pretending to be KL978 would float my boat!
I suppose it depends on whether you view it as merely a part of a whole, or as a historical artefact in it’s own right.
The East Africa Communications Squadron used Ansons at this time. There was also a Pembroke used for ‘sky shouting’, as well as Valettas (Leaflet distribution and transport), Austers and Dakotas
Vampires were also used on offensive operations
I wonder how many of the type of tourist that visits the Orkneys would be interested in viewing a recovered warbird wing, or how many of us would make the trek up there to see it?
Moggy
The Orkney Museum already has a small section on Orkney during the war – the Spitfire wing would make a fascinating addition to that I’m sure.
I seem to remember reading in the Osprey book of an occasion when a P61 on test supposedly bettered a Mosquito. Too many variables to come up with an objective conclusion, a lot seems to depend on where the commentator comes from …
The USAAF deemed to early P-61s to be inferior to the Mosquitoes and Beaufighters, and sought examples of those to equip their NF units.
There was a conspiracy theory that the RAF tests of the P-61 deliberately promoted it’s advantages over the Mosquito to prevent the Americans seeking Mosquitoes in reverse Lend Lease……
I’m glad I asked the original question now. The replies have thrown up far more information and generated far more interest than I ever expected. Strangely enough I seem to have memories of Olive green/ Earth on some of the Army Air Corps Scout helicopters when they were first introduced. Probably brain fade though.
No, your brain is fine! Army Air Corps helicopters followed their fixed wing (Auster) equivalents in being Dark Green/Dark Earth until the early 70s-ish, when they started going green/black, before going green/grey in the 80s. Beavers were the same, although I don’t think any of the remaining ones went green/grey before withdrawal.
Regarding the FAA, the Admiralty changed the orders mid-war (1942 sticks in my mind, but I’d need to check) so that even second line types based on shore were Temperate Sea Scheme, but with yellow undersides.
The other thing to remember about the switch from Green/Earth to Green/Ocean grey is that it was primarily designed to improve concealment at the higher levels the RAF found themselves fighting at in 1941. Not so relevant to Night bombers whose primary purpose for upper surface camouflage was to break up their image when dispersed.
Similar reasons traing types and types such as Austers remained in Green/Earth – they didn’t operate at higher levels.
It looks as if the wing could have been a damaged item that was spares recovered and then dumped. I am sure that ARGOS will be working on a full identification.
Was just thinking that, especially with everything found above it
Interested in where the Fleet Air Arm came in with this change…?
They didn’t, they had their own schemes
As to the K9794 paint scheme, though…?
The A and B schemes alternated by serial no, but it wasn’t as simple as Even ‘A’ odd ‘B’ – it depended on the batch
More likely it will go into the Treasury’s coffers. This Museum is publicly funded and should not need to make supplementary charges of this type. There is also a danger that charges of this type start to grow, thin end of the wedge syndrome. With volunteer run museums I would take a much different attitude, you can be more certain the money will be used directly for the benefit of the museum and its artefacts.
How about leaving it to a voluntary donation………??
I doubt it, the public money the Museum gets comes in Grant-in-aid form, and from the last published accounts ‘Insufficient Funding’ is seen as the No.1 risk to the future of the Museum. It usually runs at a paper loss, and nny money that goes out the Museum to the Govt is in the form of the usual taxes.
http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/documents/annual_reports/RAFM_2012_13_Published_Accounts.pdf
NX611 is starting live on BBC Breakfast at 7:50…
Seemed to be taxiing onto the verge when they cut to the studio!