Mike, I think there are three K3s still in service. I also agree with Tony – At Cosford, it would have been accessible all the time, something that won’t happen at Bruntingthorpe. However, if they can transport a Concorde across country to East Fortune, a VC to Cosford isn’t impossible!
It does show again the folly of putting the RAFM on a non-airfield site (Cosford was almsot a happy accident)
I was never quite sure what it was doing in Hendon in the first place.
I suppose technically it IS an ex-RAF plane, but I suspect the connection to Lindbergh and the fact that Lou Casey donated it to them were the prime factors.
The Mohawk was on display at Hendon, but appears to be back in storage again?
I suppose the only viable candidate is the Tucano, but even that could only be considered as a stop-gap..
IIRC the Tucano has an earlier, or similar OS date to the Hawk
It seemed to suffer from erratic distribution – I quite liked it, but it folded after 4 issues
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/mags/magazine-details/combat-report-magazine.htm
The Contents link on that page is broken, but from the Internet Archive:
Volume 1 No.1 November/December 1986
Introduction; Leatherneck Air Cover – USMC PBJ Mitchells in WW2 (1 map, colour photos, serials listing); Booklist – book reviews; Airfield Focus: Gan – pictorial feature; Zapped! – RN Phantom FG.1 markings photo; Colour centrespread (3 PBJ col profiles, 2 B-25 col profiles, 1 Phantom FG.1 col profile, 6 colour scrap views); With a toolbox to Cambrai – memories of a RFC airframe fitter by Peter G Cooksley; Strategic Air Force, Burma Part 1: Background – SEAC B-25 operations (serials list); Remember your anniversaries! – list of maiden flight dates for WW2 aircraft; Tabletop airpower – model kit reviews; Modeller’s Reference – Saab 105 photos; Reference Guide – Spitfire (list of books on the subject, 1 page col profiles and plan views)Volume 1 No.2 January/February 1987
Editorial; Invaders over Indo China – French AF B-26 operations; Booklist – book reviews; Letters; Reference Guide – Hurricane (list of books on the subject); Double Trouble: A look at the Twin Mustang by Paul Coggan (serials list, 1 page col drwgs); Tornado – five years in service (unit by unit survey); Steeple Mordern Strafers – 355th FG in WW2 (1 page col profiles); The Air Battle of Malta by Anton Summut (sic) (incl. airfield details); Tabletop airpower – model kit reviewsVolume 1 No.3 March/April 1987
Editorial; Cover Story: Brazil’s Catalinas; RAAF Spitfires; On Naval Duties – WW2 Fleet Air Arm photos; Letters; Thirties Album – photo feature; Videoscene – video reviews by Paul D’Orley; Boxcars Over Korea – C-119 operations (4 col profiles); USS Yorktown CV-10 The Fighting Lady – photo feature; Booklist – book reviews; ‘Triumphant We Fly’ – 381st BG in WW2 by Ron Mackay (1 col profiels, 4 col sqn insignia drwgs, serials list); The Air Battle of Malta Part 2 by Anton Sammut; Tabletop airpower – model kit reviewsVolume 1 No.4 May/June 1987
Editorial; RAF at Sharjah by Dennis West; Booklist – book reviews; Rolls-Royce – military market share remains strong; Sharper talons for the Hawk – T.1A conversion; Videoscene – video reviews by Paul D’Orley; ‘Triumphant We Fly’: The 381st Bomb Group in World War II, Part 2 by Ron Mackay (serials list); Letters; Phantoms of the 388th TFW (3 col profiles); Guardian of the Fleet: The Fairey Gannet in Royal Navy Service (4 col profiles); Middle East Gladiators – photo feature; My Short War – Luftwaffe Fw 190D pilot in March 1945 by Helmut Rix; JG 301 – a brief history; Tabletop airpower – model kit reviews; [inside back cover: RN Phantom FG.1 photo]
But how many are still flying? I suspect they proved a little expensive for many.
Ah yes, tried that before posting but didn’t find anything. The original airfield buildings lie just to the south of the runway but I think the aircraft were in an area of scrub cleared to make way for that very runway.
Here’s a link to the 1967 photos http://navigator.rafmuseum.org/results.do?view=lightbox&page=1
As you can see, if the Wellington was still there it should be quite obvious.
Anne
The link doesn’t work, but if you do a search on Socotra the pics come up.
These appear to be trucks, with some aircraft wreckage
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There appears to be two Wellington wrecks
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It’s interesting to note how much of the old WW2 buildings still exist to the North of the modern site
Kestrel was a development of the original P1127 airframe – the last P1127 was externally very similar.
The P1127 (RAF) was a substantial redesign (90%) of the Kestrel into an operational aircraft. The designation appeared when a requirement was placed for a developed Kestrel on cancellation of the P1154.
The Development Batch (of which XV281 was one) were ordered in 1965, and flew in 1966. The contract for production aircraft was placed in early 1967 and at the same time the RAF informed HawkerS that the P1127 (RAF) was to be known as the Harrier. So whilst the aircraft were ordered and first flew as P1127 (RAF)s, they would have been Harriers from early 1967! After that they were generally referred to as DB Harriers.
XV281 first flew on 14/7/1967 and was used by both Hawker Siddely and Rolls Royce for trials before going to the RAE for trials in the late 70s. I’ve probably got more info on file!
Will that be the same Norwich that has the Jag on Display that I think came from Bruggen before it was at Colt and was a composite of crashed parts nailed on a fuselage that was used for training which involved uploading you know what 😀
No, that’s Norfolk County Council, different organisation, albeit also in Norwich!
Interestinga rticle – it does make you wonder how much remains – and what else is still out there, waiting to be discovered.
Bruce said the pics were taken on the barge, so they were taken under the control of the RAFM (by one of their contractors?) so it’s perhaps reasonable for them to ask for them to be removed.
Bruce
Yes and no.
Those posted here have been by enthusiasts for enthusiasts and for no commercial gain. It strikes me as a little harsh (and perhaps unreasonable?) to expect that photographs taken from a public place of a well publicised event have effectively been banned from publication in, apparently, any medium.
You would expect an embargo on professionally taken photos at an event, or in an enclosed and private place (e.g the RAF Museum Dolphin, where people were asked not to publish pictures) – but that’s not what happened here, unless the pics were taken by a crew member on the barge? If I saw it on the motorway and took a pic, would that be banned too?
That said, you just need to remember the omerta imposed across the web over the Brunty Victor hop….
And Hunter Flying have XL500 registered as G-KAEW
Presumably this is the same beach and the same bits of Wellington as the other thread?
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?124702-Wellington-wreckage-found
I understand the idea of a war grave but in reality an aircraft will corrode away far quicker than something like a ship. That then leaves you with scattered human remains and little human dignity. What we feel now to be a grave might not be considered such in years to come – I doubt if any aircrew wished to be left in crashed aircraft if there was a chance of recovery.
David,
I found this post by John Farley, an aviator I have a great deal of respect for, interesting: