Almost ready for the Exhibition Flight to claim her back!!
Perhaps RAFM could give you LA226 next……
Like Creaking Door, we used the White Park and Ride – not traffic problems getting to it, then an hour to get into the base – eventually the Motorbike cops rescued all the P&R buses and gave us an escort into the base.
leaving just before the end, slight delay due to the traffic accident, but back at the car 20 minutes later and back home no later than any other visit to St Andrews.
Phil, presume you were parking Onbase? Traffic was diverted north because of the traffic chaos at Guardbridge P&R
Jag pitot looks like opportunistic itinerant scrap metal thieves.
The Newark theft is so much more.
DaveF68, I believe this is what you were referring to? Especially the next-to-last paragraph on page 3.
{edit: my copy of the memo is a larger file size, and enlarges more clearly. PM me if you want me to e-mail it to you}
That’s the one, and that’s fine! Thanks
Australia didn’t actually have any serious interest in TSR2 either. After an initial evaluation, their attention shifted to the USA. Many have speculated as to why, and blamed the UK for the way in which TSR2 was handled, or accused the US of underhand sales techniques, and so on. In actual fact, the real reason behind Australia’s preference for F-111 (and the interim F-4) was to simply become politically attached to the US. No matter how good TSR2 (and borrowed Valiants) might have been, Australia had no intention of adopting them.
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The memo I have seen basically made that point (Wish I could find the blooming thing!)
The Australians were interested as interim aircraft when they were considering the TSR2, but they opted for the F-111 instead.
Got a scan of a PRO memo about it somewhere, can’t find it at the mkoment.
The problem was always that you have a huge volume of traffic on small rural roads. The Police can only do so much, only so many cars can fit onto the space. It’s the on-base snarl ups that cause the problems
One year It took me 4 hours to get out the car park. The next, parking in the same place, leaving at the same time, I was out in 25 minutes. My wife, who was attending in a work capacity was exactly the opposite. (How I laughed the second year!!)
This year they are discouraging onsite parking by jacking up the prices and making it pre-purchase only, so anyone without an onbase ticket will be sent to the P&R sites. This should mean that the Police have much greater control of the flow. My concern is how many buses they have!!
I have a rat-run route through the hniterland of Fife that usually puts me within a mile of the base pretty quickly!
Basically, Tito fell out with the Soviets, so was cultivated as a sort of an ally by the West. When relations were restored with Moscow, they got Russian equipment.
In one of the early parts of the Yugoslav Civil War there was a news report that showed a T-33 rocketing a convoy
Dave
I made no comparison with recovered/conserved/restored wrecks only gave real example of a similar wreck in local to show possible sea bed condition.
OK! 🙂
Love the generalisations that it will be just scrap.
Try looking at some actual pictures from an Aug 1940 wreck in this area before writing off the recovery.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1628420#post1628420
Ross
The problem with that oxygen is an accelerant to the corrosion process. Metal in water will corrode (although aircraft metals will corrode slower than iron), metal in salt water will corrode faster (due to the electrochecmical reaction) but add a surfeit of oxygen to the mix and it accelerates the process.
So an apparently well preserved wreck has the potential to degrade quite quickly on exposure.
There is also the fact that an apparently intact airframe can be very unstable ad weak – take the Norwegian Fw200 as an example. However, that is an example of what COULD be done!
If anyone wants to waste, sorry, spend some time exploring Syrin airbases, Scramble has the link to the Google maps
Had a look round the two airfields concerned (linked on the Scramble site) and there was one possibility……
Looks like a few Mig 17 / Mig 19’s on the dump too. Any idea what the straight winged aircraft is near the Migs? Looks a bit like a Canberra but too small?
Interesting!
It’s an NF Meteor I reckon
Is this a Meteor?
And if it is, what is the smaller aircraft next to it – and slightly to the right as well. Much decayed Spits?
Note the Gate Guardian Mig-21 and the Museum Row far left – couldanything interesting be in that building?
I remember when Newark’s aircraft was thought to be the sole remaining FR9, then the South American survivors were discovered.
Not that one, but I regularly drive past the fairly substantial remains of the one at Otterburn Moss in Northumberland
The thing I find amusing about all this is how everyone is tip-toeing around who ‘actually’ now owns the aircraft, with nods and winks by ‘those in the know’. Or indeed, where it actually is now!
And I have no idea!!!